2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

If he was any good and from the coast, he would be going to LSU. Maybe he'll go to JSU snd let Coach Prime rescue him for some PR.

[Pancho]

Juco is an excellent route to get the grades in order. One cannot risk signing one with questionable grades now.

[KOdawg1]

Gtfoh acting like this will be an issue in 2 years let alone 2 months.

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

[Bdawg]

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

I find it really hard to believe we kept the family in the dark and just unknowingly drop him on his ass at the last minute, especially when committed for so long. Use some common sense. It's not like him and his family didn't know he was a grade risk anyway. Sounds to me like we gave him his best chance at coming to the SEC and he just didn't improve enough to take a chance on. The grades are on the student. Period. Kids today should know schools can't sign guys in Feb hoping they make it to school because you can't risk losing that scholarship.
Pounders is waaaay different to me. OM flipped the kid late in the game with what looks like they had no intensions of signing him in the first place. They truly dropped him on his ass at the last minute and, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think grades were a risk like they were here.

[Dawgology]

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

Gosh…they must have lost the Sugar Bowl this year because they didn’t have the support of Byhalia…

[Leroy Jenkins]

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

You cannot sign a grade risk kid anymore. If you accept the LOI they count against your grant allocation, irrespective of if they make it to school or not. That scholarship is gone for the term. If you cant get accepted into school you cant play football, end of story.

You are the one spinning here, the blame rests on the kid and the adults in his life who allowed him to (potentially) fail. This ain't the place for clutching pearls. Pounders story is completely different because he was a qualifier.

Somewhere there is a player who will get this scholly because he did the work.

[Hot Rock]

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

From my vantage point, it is two different situations. Ole Miss blindsided Pounders with this information just a few days before signing. RJ Moss told from day one we would not be signing him if it looks like he would not qualify on signing day. He was even encouraged to look elsewhere but no other SEC program or major P5 is going to sign him either with these grade issues. He can still go to South Alabama or JuCo, get his grades in order and transfer to a P5 if he can prove himself.

[Todd4State]

From my vantage point, it is two different situations. Ole Miss blindsided Pounders with this information just a few days before signing. RJ Moss told from day one we would not be signing him if it looks like he would not qualify on signing day. He was even encouraged to look elsewhere but no other SEC program or major P5 is going to sign him either with these grade issues. He can still go to South Alabama or JuCo, get his grades in order and transfer to a P5 if he can prove himself.

Or enter the portal.

[KOdawg1]

I find it really hard to believe we kept the family in the dark and just unknowingly drop him on his ass at the last minute, especially when committed for so long. Use some common sense. It's not like him and his family didn't know he was a grade risk anyway. Sounds to me like we gave him his best chance at coming to the SEC and he just didn't improve enough to take a chance on. The grades are on the student. Period. Kids today should know schools can't sign guys in Feb hoping they make it to school because you can't risk losing that scholarship.
Pounders is waaaay different to me. OM flipped the kid late in the game with what looks like they had no intensions of signing him in the first place. They truly dropped him on his ass at the last minute and, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think grades were a risk like they were here.

Don't have to use common sense. Just going off of what Steve Robertson, Paul Jones, and his coach at Biloxi have said. Think I'm gonna believe them over ED message board posters. Believe whatever you want to believe though.

[Bdawg]

Don't have to use common sense. Just going off of what Steve Robertson, Paul Jones, and his coach at Biloxi have said. Think I'm gonna believe them over ED message board posters. Believe whatever you want to believe though.

I listened to Steve too. He only said he wished it happened earlier, but it's also on the kid to make the grades. If he makes the grades, he's at state right now. What's the parents and kid gunna tell Leach when he doesn't qualify? "Sorry we cost you a scholarship, but we won't talk bad about you now." Steve and them don't know everything. And if our coaches are that incompetent in being up front with a recruit, they really suck at recruiting. I find it really hard to believe they are that stupid(like I said, common sense.) I feel like we gave the kid his best opportunity for SEC play by sticking with him the longest until we just knew it was too risky.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

No.

Ask the people in the Byhalia area how they feel about the Ole Miss coaching staff after they dropped Makylan Pounders a few days before signing day.

Y'all are in spin mode, and I get it, but this is a terrible look and pretty much assures we won't be getting a kid from Biloxi any time soon. That's coming straight from a coach on staff at BHS.

Wasnt Biloxi 3-7 last year? Maybe this coach should be worried about his job. He may not be around to assure anything. If the kid is borderline on qualifying thats on the coach and parents.

[Pancho]

sound like the coach needs to make himself useful in a study hall type format to aid his students cuz this kid needs much grade help. I'm not sure Biloxi will be producing any SEC level talent anytime soon so that is a non factor.

[Cowboydawg]

Don't have to use common sense. Just going off of what Steve Robertson, Paul Jones, and his coach at Biloxi have said. Think I'm gonna believe them over ED message board posters. Believe whatever you want to believe though.

If that?s the case, then our staff told him you can?t sign in December because of grades but you can sign in February because grades don?t matter then? According to Steve, Paul, and the Biloxi coach what did our staff tell Moss the reason was he could not sign in December?

[Bdawg]

If that?s the case, then our staff told him you can?t sign in December because of grades but you can sign in February because grades don?t matter then? According to Steve, Paul, and the Biloxi coach what did our staff tell Moss the reason was he could not sign in December?

Exactly, kid knew why he was held over. And I'm willing to bet, knew this could happen if things didn't improve.

[KOdawg1]

sound like the coach needs to make himself useful in a study hall type format to aid his students cuz this kid needs much grade help. I'm not sure Biloxi will be producing any SEC level talent anytime soon so that is a non factor.

They've put out 2 D1 players the last 2 years.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

They've put out 2 D1 players the last 2 years.

Name some players from Biloxi High School that signed to play football at MSU in last 10 years? Walley went to Diberville.

[Dawgology]

Name some players from Biloxi High School that signed to play football at MSU in last 10 years? Walley went to Diberville.

This is where I’m at. Most of the coast schools have aligned themselves with LSU. We aren’t ever making in roads down there unfortunately. This is a big nothing burger.

[KOdawg1]

Name some players from Biloxi High School that signed to play football at MSU in last 10 years? Walley went to Diberville.

Where did I say we signed any players there? I was just saying, they've put out some decent players the last few years, so I'm not willing to justify cutting ties there.

I'm aware where Walley went to school.

[KOdawg1]

Gosh…they must have lost the Sugar Bowl this year because they didn’t have the support of Byhalia…

I mean, that's a weird conclusion to come to but okay

[Commercecomet24]

You cannot sign a grade risk kid anymore. If you accept the LOI they count against your grant allocation, irrespective of if they make it to school or not. That scholarship is gone for the term. If you cant get accepted into school you cant play football, end of story.

You are the one spinning here, the blame rests on the kid and the adults in his life who allowed him to (potentially) fail. This ain't the place for clutching pearls. Pounders story is completely different because he was a qualifier.

Somewhere there is a player who will get this scholly because he did the work.

This. And just about every school has dropped a kid for this very reason. Heck even Saban has dropped kids right before signing day. It's part of it. If you don't put in the work in the classroom you don't reap the benefits. They knew this was coming because of the lack of production in the classroom.