2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

[Bothrops]

Hunter is a bit undersized at 5’ 11 188lbs but he should help for sure. Offers From Bama, LSU, Ohio ST, Peen St, OK and many others out of HS. Not sure what made him leave FSU but he could definitely help. He has four years of eligibility left.

5'11 188lbs seems like a typical CB size to me

[Hot Rock]

5'11 188lbs seems like a typical CB size to me

Look at other cb's of late on our roster. 6' 1" is closer to normal for us. I don't know much about other teams.

Currently on Mississippi State's roster there are well over a dozen DB's listed and only two are under 6 foot and none of them are safeties. The two under 6 feet are not on the depth chart.

Our two deep - Emerson - 6 2" Nicholson 6 3" Forbes 6 1" and Banks 6 0"

5' 11" is undersized in today's world but only slightly but 188lbs is not light. There are lots of 6' 4" WR those guys have to cover but that doesn't prohibit him from being good. In Hunter's HS write up it did mention he was a good tackler and physical for a smaller corner.

For Mississippi State my opinion is that it is even more important because I say for the 3-3-5 defensive style, your DB's must be able to tackle well. They are asked to do a lot of run support with 5 DB's on the field at all times.

[SmokeyDawg]

He's not undersized, he's the typical db size in college and nfl. Agility is more important than size at db.

[Hot Rock]

He's not undersized, he's the typical db size in college and nfl. Agility is more important than size at db.

WE can agree to disagree. You are correct that agility is more important and that is a must have way more than the height and length (I don't know his arm reach). WR's are getting bigger and bigger these days and the future of CB's is taller if not bigger.

I look at the draft at the top 20 CB's coming out in the draft this year, 4 are 6'2 " and up and 4 are 5" 11" and under with 12 in the sweet spot of 6' 0" to 6" 1". Three of the four smaller ones are 5' 11" just like him and one dude is 5' 8" and but i doubt you see him playing out wide vs big WR's. So yes, he is a bit undersized height wise but not weight and thickness. He does tackle well.

When you consider we play 5 DB's on every snap, run support is very import. I agree he is not small for that at 188lbs. That's pretty thick at 5' 11" for a DB and he is said to be a very good tackler. To say he is slightly undersized is an accurate statement but that doesn't mean he can't be good.

[Commercecomet24]

He's not undersized, he's the typical db size in college and nfl. Agility is more important than size at db.

Yeah, I was curious so I went through every NFL roster and found that there are 141 DB's in the NFL 5'11" or under. So I would say 5'11" is a very common size for a DB.

[Hot Rock]

Yeah, I was curious so I went through every NFL roster and found that there are 141 DB's in the NFL 5'11" or under. So I would say 5'11" is a very common size for a DB.

I am not looking at the current state of NFL CB's. Those guys came out of HS 5-10 or even more years ago. For the most part your top CB's out of HS are 6 foot or taller these days. There are some under 6 but not nearly as many as in years past.


if you look at what coming into the NFL now, they are taller and the higher rated CB's coming out of HS are taller as well. You will see the same trend with WR's as well. I am not saying the days of your smaller CB's & WR's are gone but there many more outside WR's getting bigger and bigger every year. There will always be a place for shorter players but to say that 5' 11'' is not shorter than the majority of your top prospects is wrong.

Both last years draft and this years draft around 80% of the top 20 CB were 6 foot and taller. The only guys under six foot drafted highly were barely under six foot for the most part. That makes him smaller if you want to be in that group. The days of all your CB's being 5' 10" are gone or you simply can't defend these 6' 4" WR's that are becoming more and more prevalent.

[Commercecomet24]

I am not looking at the current state of NFL CB's. Those guys came out of HS 5-10 or even more years ago. For the most part your top CB's out of HS are 6 foot or taller these days. There are some under 6 but not nearly as many as in years past.


if you look at what coming into the NFL now, they are taller and the higher rated CB's coming out of HS are taller as well. You will see the same trend with WR's as well. I am not saying the days of your smaller CB's & WR's are gone but there many more outside WR's getting bigger and bigger every year. There will always be a place for shorter players but to say that 5' 11'' is not shorter than the majority of your top prospects is wrong.

Both last years draft and this years draft around 80% of the top 20 CB were 6 foot and taller. The only guys under six foot drafted highly were barely under six foot for the most part. That makes him smaller if you want to be in that group. The days of all your CB's being 5' 10" are gone or you simply can't defend these 6' 4" WR's that are becoming more and more prevalent.

It may be trending that way but there are still quite a few DB 5'11" and under. 14 taken in last years draft. And yeah I agree it's headed that way but there's still a place(currently) for a small db with speed, agility and good ball skills. Our best corner this year, Forbes, is listed at 6'0" but if you've been around him, he ain't 6 foot. He's 5'11" at best. When he goes to the combine and they measure him barefoot next year, we'll see that.