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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Or maybe Leach values things like loyalty and is rewarding a guy who has done a good job for us and giving him a shot?
    Meh.

    Bump was the hire to make. It was right there, but we went the easy route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    It is lazy, but if you can’t tell, Leach is a lazy ass guy. He’s probably the laziest head coach in the country unfortunately but it’s who we got. No AD can tell their head coach what position coaches to hire, doesn’t work like that.
    If he is lazy, how have we signed the class we have? We don't recruit Top 25 on reputation. So he and his staff must be doing something.

    Doubt we would have beaten the number of ranked teams we did this year if he was lazy. Mullen couldn't lick his way into as many as Leach did.

    That narrative of Leach laziness I think is idiotic and not able to be supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    If he is lazy, how have we signed the class we have? We don't recruit Top 25 on reputation. So he and his staff must be doing something.

    Doubt we would have beaten the number of ranked teams we did this year if he was lazy. Mullen couldn't lick his way into as many as Leach did.

    That narrative of Leach laziness I think is idiotic and not able to be supported.
    Show me where I said the staff is lazy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    Show me where I said the staff is lazy?
    Name for me one non lazy staff in the entire country that has a lazy head football coach.

    Staffs are driven by the head coach. They don't just randomly do things by themselves. It's coordinated under the vision of the head coach. If the staff isn't lazy, the head coach isn't lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    Show me where I said the staff is lazy?
    You mean the Mike Leach staff?

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    I'm pretty sure Kiffin spends more time in South Florida than Leach does, which is something I wouldn't have said a year ago. I mean, they are both there a lot, but I think Kiffin leaves his car running at the airport in Miami when he flies back to oxford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    I'm pretty sure Kiffin spends more time in South Florida than Leach does, which is something I wouldn't have said a year ago. I mean, they are both there a lot, but I think Kiffin leaves his car running at the airport in Miami when he flies back to oxford.
    Corral said in an interview that Lebby had offensive camps and extra time with him going over plays. Lane Kiffin was nowhere to be found during these. Lebby was very hands on with the offense. Lane ain't getting that with Weiss Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Corral said in an interview that Lebby had offensive camps and extra time with him going over plays. Lane Kiffin was nowhere to be found during these. Lebby was very hands on with the offense. Lane ain't getting that with Weiss Jr.
    Yeah, their offense takes a big step backwards unless they hit on a QB in the portal. It looks like USC and OU are going to trade QB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Meh.

    Bump was the hire to make. It was right there, but we went the easy route.
    Thats your opinion I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    It is lazy, but if you can’t tell, Leach is a lazy ass guy. He’s probably the laziest head coach in the country unfortunately but it’s who we got. No AD can tell their head coach what position coaches to hire, doesn’t work like that.
    If Leach was lazy he wouldn't be as successful as he is.

    Eccentric? Yes. Lazy? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Thats your opinion I guess
    Yep, sure is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    If Leach was lazy he wouldn't be as successful as he is.

    Eccentric? Yes. Lazy? No.
    What success has he had at MSU? So far we are paying him close to $1Million per win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    What success has he had at MSU? So far we are paying him close to $1Million per win.
    Trying to figure out if this is sarcasm or stupidity. Forgotten asterisks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkerhill View Post
    Trying to figure out if this is sarcasm or stupidity. Forgotten asterisks?
    He’s 11-13 dude. Shown promise, but let’s not act like he’s there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    He?s 11-13 dude. Shown promise, but let?s not act like he?s there yet.
    Not saying it has been perfect by any means. But no successes? A&M, AU, and LSU away are big wins in the SEC. NC State and UK were good wins. I am not about moral victories but the UGA game was one of the gutsiest performances I have ever seen by any sports team.

    The Memphis game and both Ole Misss games were big letdowns obviously. Although we pulled it out the La. Tech performance was a head scratcher. The bowl performance this year was downright terrible.

    I think it would be fair to say Leach has been inconsistent, including flat performances. But to say there have been no success at State is just off the mark.

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    The big question is can he win 7 next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    The big question is can he win 7 next year?
    Next year should be 8 at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Next year should be 8 at least.
    100%. No more excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by vv83 View Post
    100%. No more excuses
    Is the recruiting better than it’s been in the past ? How is that lazy ?

    Who is making excuses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate View Post
    Is the recruiting better than it?s been in the past ? How is that lazy ?

    Who is making excuses ?
    What, are we Ole Miss now? Give me wins and beat our rival

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