Page 13 of 103 FirstFirst ... 311121314152363 ... LastLast
Results 241 to 260 of 2051

Thread: 2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

  1. #241
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,734
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Jay Hopson from Horn Lake commits today:

    https://247sports.com/player/jarnorris-hopson-46111529/
    Props to Coach McBath and Rod Gibson
    Welcome to the Fam Jay Hop.
    Last edited by Ari Gold; 04-25-2021 at 09:11 PM.

  2. #242
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    196
    vCash
    1053700
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Yeah hard to beat LSU for Mason when you don’t even try..

    It wasn’t all about the money.. and they didn’t triple or even double his salary.
    That?s not what he said

  3. #243
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,734
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by sscjr1 View Post
    That?s not what he said
    He tell you that personally?
    And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

    My final word on this is ..
    Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don’t close or why we can’t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
    Some didn’t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
    Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
    Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson’s and Smiths .. we don’t pay enough for these spots , we don’t value these positions..
    And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don’t think he wouldn’t think long and hard about it

    Money wasn’t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

    So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
    I don’t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

    My info came from Mason Smith himself.

    With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..
    Last edited by Ari Gold; 04-27-2021 at 05:53 AM.

  4. #244
    Senior Member Cooterpoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    11,578
    vCash
    52714
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    He tell you that personally?
    And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

    My final word on this is ..
    Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don?t close or why we can?t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
    Some didn?t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
    Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
    Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson?s and Smiths .. we don?t pay enough for these spots , we don?t value these positions..
    And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don?t think he wouldn?t think long and hard about it

    Money wasn?t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

    So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
    I don?t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

    My info came from Mason Smith himself.

    With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..
    Our pay sucks. There's no debate there. Before Covid, we were banking $15M a year in our athletic dept. Now, that came in handy when Covid hit, but that's $15M we did nothing with that we could have. Pat was great, but he got himself in some trouble. Mama called Mason and he left. He'll have a bigger budget and more freedom to use it. He also might be under NCAA probation.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 04-27-2021 at 07:40 AM.

  5. #245
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    196
    vCash
    1053700
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    He tell you that personally?
    And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

    My final word on this is ..
    Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don’t close or why we can’t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
    Some didn’t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
    Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
    Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson’s and Smiths .. we don’t pay enough for these spots , we don’t value these positions..
    And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don’t think he wouldn’t think long and hard about it

    Money wasn’t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

    So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
    I don’t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

    My info came from Mason Smith himself.

    With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..
    Calm down. I meant that's not what IfYouOnlyKnew said. He said we weren't beating LSU for Mason without tripling what LSU offered.

  6. #246
    Senior Member William Tecumsah Sherman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    907
    vCash
    3100
    Mason Miller sends out the signal. Who is it?

  7. #247
    Senior Member Hambone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    NW MS
    Posts
    1,735
    vCash
    105736
    This is really impressive considering most everyone said expect a recruiting lull at least until after some summer visits

  8. #248
    Senior Member KOdawg1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    10,785
    vCash
    966500
    QB1????

  9. #249
    Senior Member StarkVegasSteve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    6,207
    vCash
    98074
    I'd bet on it being Craycraft from Jesuit.

  10. #250
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    196
    vCash
    1053700
    Rosebowl with the CB for Locke

  11. #251
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,734
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by sscjr1 View Post
    Calm down. I meant that's not what IfYouOnlyKnew said. He said we weren't beating LSU for Mason without tripling what LSU offered.
    Well maybe Mason told him differently..

    I’m given out first hand info from the source.. if it’s not true then so be it..

  12. #252
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    He tell you that personally?
    And based on what he was making here I cant blame him for leaving. it was beyond laughable...

    My final word on this is ..
    Everyone that bitches and moans on why we don’t close or why we can’t land certain kids all circles back to the lack of effort we put into recruiting and recruiting guys we have on staff
    Some didn’t see the importance of Pat Austin, you saw the results. Who do you think saw the importance and was big on getting Mason on this staff ? Pat Austin.
    Go ask Rod Gibson how good this guy was. How many good contacts he had. How the kids and kids parents in the boot and Texas thought of him
    Bottom line we dont have near enough guys like the Gibson’s and Smiths .. we don’t pay enough for these spots , we don’t value these positions..
    And believe as much as Rod Gibson loves and bleeds maroon and white , if a school came after him with a little more cash don’t think he wouldn’t think long and hard about it

    Money wasn’t the only factor in Mason leaving.. if we had countered offered with anything he would have at least listened and considered..

    So again believe what you want I am basing all of this from one source.
    I don’t care what Rosebowl reports , or what Pail Jones says, or a a certain coach on the staff tells someone , or even an ex staff member.

    My info came from Mason Smith himself.

    With that said we can get back to MSU recruiting..
    Why don't you think we are committed?

    Who doesn't want to be committed?

    Who is holding us back because every fan I talk to wants to win badly
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  13. #253
    Senior Member MetEdDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Birmingham, AL
    Posts
    8,373
    vCash
    2610
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Why don't you think we are committed?

    Who doesn't want to be committed?

    Who is holding us back because every fan I talk to wants to win badly
    Give more. We need to double our giving. We are last. And until we start throwing money at this it won't get fixed. Organizationally were are poor compared to the rest of the SEC. That's a fact. We need to double our giving to even sniff long term being a competitor.

    I've stumped on this a long time and so many people continue to say money isn't an issue. It's an issue when you compare to the SEC. Top 25 recruiting classes are what we keep asking for. Guess what? That puts us best case scenario 8th or 9th in the conference. We need cash flow to fix our problem if we want to compete in the SEC consistently in football. Period.

  14. #254
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    4,874
    vCash
    3828
    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Give more. We need to double our giving. We are last. And until we start throwing money at this it won't get fixed. Organizationally were are poor compared to the rest of the SEC. That's a fact. We need to double our giving to even sniff long term being a competitor.

    I've stumped on this a long time and so many people continue to say money isn't an issue. It's an issue when you compare to the SEC. Top 25 recruiting classes are what we keep asking for. Guess what? That puts us best case scenario 8th or 9th in the conference. We need cash flow to fix our problem if we want to compete in the SEC consistently in football. Period.
    Not saying your wrong, but with all this sec/tv contract money(millions) that we have gained within this decade and has been going up, we couldn't have used a sliver of that to raise a few salaries and hire some more recruiting guys? With how everyone says we are dirt cheap on salaries, it couldn't cost that much for a few raises and more positions could it? Exactly where is all this added money going to?
    Last edited by Bdawg; 04-28-2021 at 07:41 AM.

  15. #255
    Senior Member Cooterpoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    11,578
    vCash
    52714
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Why don't you think we are committed?

    Who doesn't want to be committed?

    Who is holding us back because every fan I talk to wants to win badly
    It's not just sports we aren't committed to. We also aren't committed to being a better university. Our leadership is bad if commitment is what you want.

  16. #256
    Senior Member Turfdawg67's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Posts
    4,860
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Give more. We need to double our giving. We are last. And until we start throwing money at this it won't get fixed. Organizationally were are poor compared to the rest of the SEC. That's a fact. We need to double our giving to even sniff long term being a competitor.

    I've stumped on this a long time and so many people continue to say money isn't an issue. It's an issue when you compare to the SEC. Top 25 recruiting classes are what we keep asking for. Guess what? That puts us best case scenario 8th or 9th in the conference. We need cash flow to fix our problem if we want to compete in the SEC consistently in football. Period.
    We are supposedly banking $15MM per year instead of spending it on salaries and positions. What makes you think increased alumni donations will be used for the right reasons?

  17. #257
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    4,874
    vCash
    3828
    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    We are supposedly banking $15MM per year instead of spending it on salaries and positions. What makes you think increased alumni donations will be used for the right reasons?
    Yeah I don't get it either. Bank 14mm and take a mil for salaries and hires. Or 13. Or whatever it takes.

  18. #258
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Posts
    238
    vCash
    3100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Yeah I don't get it either. Bank 14mm and take a mil for salaries and hires. Or 13. Or whatever it takes.
    Where does that info come from? Is that legit?

    What would we do that - to dedicate it towards facility upgrades or something?

  19. #259
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Covington, Louisiana
    Posts
    2,273
    vCash
    700722589
    It has been a observation through history that those who bitch the most give the least

  20. #260
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg View Post
    It has been a observation through history that those who bitch the most give the least

    I think people would be more than willing to give if it were articulated what we need.

    For example, where is this memo? "Dear Boosters, in order to keep up with the rest of the SEC in terms of recruiting staff, we need to raise $1 mil. These funds will go directly towards the hiring of 5 additional recruiting analysts. We plan on making the hires August 1st & need to raise the money by July 1st"

    I'm sure if people knew what we needed, we'd get all the support anyone could ask for. However, when it seems like we're banking $14 mil a year from the TV contacts, people just aren't going to give funds that aren't earmarked towards a need.

    This seems like total common sense yet it goes undone
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.