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Our line doesn?t get downfield when we run so there?s usually 3 or 4 LBs crashing down on our RB or their 3 man front blows up our line for a loss or no gain.
Hopefully this can be fixed in the spring.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Well we need to figure out how bc the defense is giving us the run
It's probably why I'm more pissed at Leach than I ever was with Moorhead. Moorehead should have never been hired to run an SEC program. There was nothing Moorhead could do.
Leach could be great, but for some reason, he won't adapt. Great coaches adapt.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
It's probably why I'm more pissed at Leach than I ever was with Moorhead. Moorehead should have never been hired to run an SEC program. There was nothing Moorhead could do.
Leach could be great, but for some reason, he won't adapt. Great coaches adapt.
Same here hoops. We look as dumb or dumber than LSU staying in man the whole game. We've been stupid every game not adapting any. No business or anything in life can succeed long term without adapting.
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This is my biggest concern with Leach.
The pass/run ratio needs a small adjustment imo.
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We'll see what Leach does going forward. It cannot be overstated how bad our O-Line sucked this year - pass blocking and run blocking.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
He's never seen the 3-8 exclusively every single game like he is this year. And he hasn't countered.
You do realize a 3-8 doesn't mean that the defense flies out into the secondary at the snap of the ball right.
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Originally Posted by
RezDog7
You do realize a 3-8 doesn't mean that the defense flies out into the secondary at the snap of the ball right.
No he doesn't.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
and we would still lead the country in passing play percentage by 4%.
We have faced the same defense 7 weeks in a row. We are dead last in the country in rushing yards per game. Dead freaking last against a 3 man front.
Are there people on this board that don't think Leach needs to adjust his scheme? Just trying to find some common ground here.
Exactly. And you want to run it more.
Here's a hint- it's still not going to work because we're still not going to be able to run the ball. It doesn't matter what kind of misdirection/counter/etc. play you want to run. If you can't block you can't block.
And no- Leach doesn't need to adjust his scheme. He needs to develop our players which he is doing now and has done everywhere else. And he needs to bring in talent to add to our core group which is playing very well for freshmen.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Exactly. And you want to run it more.
Here's a hint- it's still not going to work because we're still not going to be able to run the ball. It doesn't matter what kind of misdirection/counter/etc. play you want to run. If you can't block you can't block.
And no- Leach doesn't need to adjust his scheme. He needs to develop our players which he is doing now and has done everywhere else. And he needs to bring in talent to add to our core group which is playing very well for freshmen.
Todd, let the grown ups talk. Sit this one out.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Todd, let the grown ups talk. Sit this one out.
Merry Christmas! Maybe you'll post better next year and say less stupid shit.
https://www.amazon.com/Football-Dumm...-1&tag=mh0b-20
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I think part of it is our RBs aren't really that good this year.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
I think part of it is our RBs aren't really that good this year.
Yep, I've wondered why Witherspoon doesn't get more playing time. #23 runs like a blind fullback.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Yep, I've wondered why Witherspoon doesn't get more playing time. #23 runs like a blind fullback.
I want to see more Witherspoon too.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
and we would still lead the country in passing play percentage by 4%.
We have faced the same defense 7 weeks in a row. We are dead last in the country in rushing yards per game. Dead freaking last against a 3 man front.
Are there people on this board that don't think Leach needs to adjust his scheme? Just trying to find some common ground here.
I think he needs some OL, needs one to get healthy and one to kill it in the training room. Same with the RBs. Leach isn't running the full playbook yet. In the past, he's run it more. Got to find the players and have a full offseason. And yes, some tweaks would help too.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
And yes, some tweaks would help too.
That's all I want. That's all any sane person should want.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Well we need to figure out how bc the defense is giving us the run
Mississippi committed 7 to the run most of the day.
We are seeing a lot of 3 man fronts but there are 4 more guys within 6 yards of the line flying down hill when they read run. And they all are in zone with their eyes in the backfield. Nobody's back turns from the line in man. What should really be there is play action.
I do expect our OL to get better at combos and working to the next level though. And more mature backs. We will run it better in time.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Ole Miss had 2 weeks to get prepare as well.
Seems as if we did a bad job early yesterday of diagnosing what OM was doing. Once we did, we moved the ball easily, but those 3 missed possessions early likely cost us the game.
With all teams running a 3-8 vs us, there is only so much they can do. Soon Rogers & the WRs will have seen everything that's possible in that defense & will diagnose it quicker
The 3 empty possessions in the third quarter too.
Of course, Cole rolling the ball back to will cost us a chance to keep 2 drives going. Will was carving them up and both of those snaps ended drives. Those 2 snaps and the fumble at the goal line were the difference. Didn't play clean enough.
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To echo a lot of this is like to see us run more as well but more but when is the last time you saw a 10 yard run from a back - or heck even multiple 5 yard runs.
Whether it’s the blocking or the back or a combination right now we are way worse running then all than throwing the ball.
Really we need the qb to run more or some play action to manipulate the LB if the rb aren’t going to get it done. Or maybe the trick is to run deeper routes because seems teams have tons of defenders within 5 yards of the LOS which doesn’t leave a lot of running lanes
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I thought our run/pass percentage would be similar to 2008 TT going into the year.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...tech/2008.html
I was hoping we would see some toss sweeps yesterday too.
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Originally Posted by
Bass Chaser
I think that average is more in line with what we can expect from Leach while he is here as we progress as a team.
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