Leach could increase our running plays by 10%...

[HoopsDawg]

and we would still lead the country in passing play percentage by 4%.

We have faced the same defense 7 weeks in a row. We are dead last in the country in rushing yards per game. Dead freaking last against a 3 man front.

Are there people on this board that don't think Leach needs to adjust his scheme? Just trying to find some common ground here.

[ShotgunDawg]

At Washington State in 2018 the Minshew year, they had 5 100+ yard running games.

I'm not exactly sure why we aren't running it more & maybe more importantly, why we aren't having more success running it, but I think running it more is the goal

[Todd4State]

At Washington State in 2018 the Minshew year, they had 5 100+ yard running games.

I'm not exactly sure why we aren't running it more & maybe more importantly, why we aren't having more success running it, but I think running it more is the goal

Our offensive line and running backs need to develop. Our center is struggling snapping the ball. We get beat by good pass rushers despite teams only rushing three. They're getting better but like most of the rest of the team they're young. Cross is our best guy and he's a RS freshman. Smith, Dollar Bill, and Kam Jones are RS sophomores. Parker has been IMO probably our most consistent guy and he is a senior.

And then we're playing two freshmen RB's who I think are solid but they're not Leonard Fournette either. They aren't guys that are going to break too many long runs. At least not yet- if they ever will be.

I think as we develop we'll see the YPC get up to around 4 YPC.

[DownwardDawg]

I think it's obvious to every state fan that we need to run the ball more. I just don't know if Leach will do it or not. I'm afraid that 3 years from now we'll be hiring another spread/run coach and we'll get to start all over again building what Mullen built. That's my fear.

[ShotgunDawg]

I think it's obvious to every state fan that we need to run the ball more. I just don't know if Leach will do it or not. I'm afraid that 3 years from now we'll be hiring another spread/run coach and we'll get to start all over again building what Mullen built. That's my fear.

He's run the ball more in the past & he'll run it more here. I'm just not sure what variables are involved that are causing this.

[HoopsDawg]

He's run the ball more in the past & he'll run it more here. I'm just not sure what variables are involved that are causing this.

He's never seen the 3-8 exclusively every single game like he is this year. And he hasn't countered.

[ShotgunDawg]

He's never seen the 3-8 exclusively every single game like he is this year. And he hasn't countered.

Are you sure about that?

[HancockCountyDog]

Are you sure about that?

Yes - we are sure about that; I can go game by game on youtube, snap by snap. He has never seen the 3-8 used almost exclusively the entire game except when he played Washington.

[Coach34]

He's never seen the 3-8 exclusively every single game like he is this year. And he hasn't countered.

That's all he is every going to see for the most part in this conference. You dont change what works.

And I hear people saying it's going to be better next year and all that. The windows to throw are going to be just as small next year as they were this year. DC's get the offseason to study ways of making the 3-8 even tougher. We had 479 yards yesterday of offense. That helped the OM D bring DOWN their average per game to 528.5 yards given up. We got 50 less yards than their average per game against a prevent D

[HoopsDawg]

That's all he is every going to see for the most part in this conference. You dont change what works.

And I hear people saying it's going to be better next year and all that. The windows to throw are going to be just as small next year as they were this year. DC's get the offseason to study ways of making the 3-8 even tougher. We had 479 yards yesterday of offense. That helped the OM D bring DOWN their average per game to 528.5 yards given up. We got 50 less yards than their average per game against a prevent D

True. And teams are already making small tweaks to the 3-8. OM played our RB man to man to take away the checkdown. A&M made a couple of tweaks as far as mixing up their 3 man rushes. Vandy switched some things up during the game. UGA was probably the most uncomfortable with the 3-8 dropping their LB's 10 yards deep at the snap. Once they finally adjusted and started jumping the underneath stuff, they shut us down the last 4 possessions.

Yep, 479 yards- 41 of those yards on the desperation hail mary to Spivey.

[R2Dawg]

I think it's obvious to every state fan that we need to run the ball more. I just don't know if Leach will do it or not. I'm afraid that 3 years from now we'll be hiring another spread/run coach and we'll get to start all over again building what Mullen built. That's my fear.

Agree, my biggest fear too. We hired a guy that will force us into two major rebuilds to get back. First one is Leach running an odd system, next one will be to get us out of this system. That is a lot of bad years of football.

We'll be the joke of SEC football jokes again. Something JWS and Mullen both changed in their time.

[Todd4State]

Agree, my biggest fear too. We hired a guy that will force us into two major rebuilds to get back. First one is Leach running an odd system, next one will be to get us out of this system. That is a lot of bad years of football.

We'll be the joke of SEC football jokes again. Something JWS and Mullen both changed in their time.

His system attracts good QB's and WR's. That's a good starting point for any head coach. Imagine what may have happened if Moorhead had guys like Rogers and Walley/Heath when he came on board.

[ShotgunDawg]

In 2018, Wazzou ran the ball 29% of the time while we currently run it 22% of the time.

Again, I'd have to think the 2018 Wazzou ratio is what we're shooting for, but I haven't a clue as to the variables that are currently preventing it

[msstate7]

We avg 1.49 yds/carry. 1.49 haha

[ShotgunDawg]

We avg 1.49 yds/carry. 1.49 haha

Yeah clearly our effectiveness in running the ball isn't good.

Hopefully that is something we figure out in the Spring

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah clearly our effectiveness in running the ball isn't good.

Hopefully that is something we figure out in the Spring

Art Briles and Lincoln Riley have given Leach the formula. He just refuses to use it.

[boot]

We aren?t rushing because we?re stuffed nearly every run or gain a measly 2 or 3 yards.. it?s not enough to make teams adjust to us like everybody is thinking they will.

[msstate7]

We aren?t rushing because we?re stuffed nearly every run or gain a measly 2 or 3 yards.. it?s not enough to make teams adjust to us like everybody is thinking they will.

Well we need to figure out how bc the defense is giving us the run

[parabrave]

Well we need to figure out how bc the defense is giving us the run

Except it's hard to run block when your splits are 5 yards and the run route takes you right by the DT not inside.

[HoopsDawg]

Except it's hard to run block when your splits are 5 yards and the run route takes you right by the DT not inside.

It's been said traditional splits have not hurt the air raid passing game while helping the run game. So why won't Leach adjust? Hubris, stubbornness, i would like to know. I wish one of our beat reporters was skilled enough to get an answer.