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My point is even kickers have to be prepared to make a tackle or make a football play in case in breaks down. So here he comes on a muffed kick, 4.4, 220lbs and she is in the way. What happens? Answer geniuses?
So you geniuses really think a female belongs on the field with those male athletes? Yall need your heads examined.
The PR stunt is just that trying to push a political narrative that a female can do anything a male can do. Part of the feminist movement. I am not biased. There are many things a woman can do that a man can't, it works both ways. You think there isn't a male kicker out there as good as she is?
Her championships were not in football.
Use your brain folks.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
I don't have a problem with it but it was a PR stunt. Did they hold an open tryout for any interested kickers? There weren't any former Juco or high school kickers interested?
They said on the broadcast there were no students on campus. It was literally just the football team and the girls soccer team who was only still there because they just played in the SEC tournament.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
You can?t just clear a former juco or HS kicker to play in an NCAA game in 3 days
But you can a girl that isn't on the team?
I don't know the backstory but I bet there are some players on that team that kicked in HS. I'll bet. This was a PR stunt, plain and simple. SEC got their headline story in a year of Covid football.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
She's 6'2" and not a beanpole lol, I GUARANTEE you she has 20 lbs on that Rodrigo Blankenship kid from UGA, yet nobody said he should get cut.
Vandy lost their kicker. the best kicker that tried out was Sarah Fuller, so they played her. End of story. the sexism is in thinking they should have picked someone based on gender, rather than the quality of their kicking
So you think men and women are exactly the same? If you do, I can't help you. Men play men sports, women pay women sports. That is the way it is. That isn't sexism.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
She's 6'2" and not a beanpole lol, I GUARANTEE you she has 20 lbs on that Rodrigo Blankenship kid from UGA, yet nobody said he should get cut.
Vandy lost their kicker. the best kicker that tried out was Sarah Fuller, so they played her. End of story. the sexism is in thinking they should have picked someone based on gender, rather than the quality of their kicking
It ain't about weight. I know some overweight women that would get destroyed by a 150lb man. Do you understand the differences in men and women?
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What happens if she kicked it off for real or if she kicked a field goal then got trucked by a 250+ib guy? Are people going to be harsh on that man for making the tackle?
Besides look at her kick. You're telling me no one on that team can do better than that?
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If a girl could help us I would want her on the team.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If a girl could help us I would want her on the team.
Absolutely not. Men and women do not belong on the same field together in a sport this rough. That's a very slippery slope you're condoning.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
My point is even kickers have to be prepared to make a tackle or make a football play in case in breaks down. So here he comes on a muffed kick, 4.4, 220lbs and she is in the way. What happens? Answer geniuses?
So you geniuses really think a female belongs on the field with those male athletes? Yall need your heads examined.
The PR stunt is just that trying to push a political narrative that a female can do anything a male can do. Part of the feminist movement. I am not biased. There are many things a woman can do that a man can't, it works both ways. You think there isn't a male kicker out there as good as she is?
Her championships were not in football.
Use your brain folks.
So if Vanderbilt had lost 13-12 on two missed extra points and it came out that there was an available Vanderbilt student who could have made those XPs, but Mason didn't add her on the team because she's a girl, you would think Mason had made the right decision?
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
What happens if she kicked it off for real or if she kicked a field goal then got trucked by a 250+ib guy? Are people going to be harsh on that man for making the tackle?
Besides look at her kick. You're telling me no one on that team can do better than that?
No one will answer that. I asked the same question. The reason is it blows their entire cover for this narrative. They don't want to acknowledge a girl getting trucked, knocked out, hurt, humiliated on the field where she don't belong.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
So if Vanderbilt had lost 13-12 on two missed extra points and it came out that there was an available Vanderbilt student who could have made those XPs, but Mason didn't add her on the team because she's a girl, you would think Mason had made the right decision?
Flip it around what happens if she gets seriously injured by a grown man? How do you think that'd look?
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
So if Vanderbilt had lost 13-12 on two missed extra points and it came out that there was an available Vanderbilt student who could have made those XPs, but Mason didn't add her on the team because she's a girl, you would think Mason had made the right decision?
Yep but not for your reasons but reasons I gave.
You haven't answered my question? No one has or will.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
Flip it around what happens if she gets seriously injured by a grown man? How do you think that'd look?
She left the field as soon as she kicked. She wasn't going to be in position for that.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If a girl could help us I would want her on the team.
So what if your momma could kick. You be OK with her being on the field and maybe getting trucked?
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Yep but not for your reasons but reasons I gave.
You haven't answered my question? No one has or will.
Which question? I'll answer it.
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The other piece of this is the team and locker room issue.
Same as women serving on the front lines in the military and the draft. So yall OK with that? You want your sister or daughter fighting in the middle east against Arab men in front line combat? I don't care if she is a good shooter. Got the fox hole issues too like the lockerroom.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
So you think men and women are exactly the same? If you do, I can't help you. Men play men sports, women pay women sports. That is the way it is. That isn't sexism.
Did I ever say men and women were the same? You're not very bright if you think that's what I said
It's because men and women arent' the same that we have separate divisions. Women would get destroyed if men were allowed to play vs them. It's why this transgender issue is so stupid and not fir to women. HOWEVER, the reason we keep womens sports separate is to protect them from men. Men's teams don't need to be protected from women.
Men shouldn't be allowed to play on a women's team but women should be allowed to play on a mens team because very very few women can do that.
The fact is kickers rarely have to make tackles, they are rarely athletically comparable to a 6'3" LB, and even then are rarely even in shape. Most kickers have arms that look like mine. On top of that, many kickers are physically small.
Why would I worry about a 6'2" female taking the field for 2-5 low risk plays when I don't worry about the men described above doing the same game in game out for years? Sarah Fuller knows the risks, she's an adult, and she's objectively not in any more of a physical risk of getting steamrolled than many male D1 kickers
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Which question? I'll answer it.
Several in many of the replies about a woman having to execute like a man against a man. Not even, not fair and downright wrong. Several forms of it.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
She left the field as soon as she kicked. She wasn't going to be in position for that.
Even if she left the field immediately after a kickoff that leaves them outnumbered. It doesn't make sense either way for a woman to be out there.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Did I ever say men and women were the same? You're not very bright if you think that's what I said
It's because men and women arent' the same that we have separate divisions. Women would get destroyed if men were allowed to play vs them. It's why this transgender issue is so stupid and not fir to women. HOWEVER, the reason we keep womens sports separate is to protect them from men. Men's teams don't need to be protected from women.
Men shouldn't be allowed to play on a women's team but women should be allowed to play on a mens team because very very few women can do that.
The fact is kickers rarely have to make tackles, they are rarely athletically comparable to a 6'3" LB, and even then are rarely even in shape. Most kickers have arms that look like mine. On top of that, many kickers are physically small.
Why would I worry about a 6'2" female taking the field for 2-5 low risk plays when I don't worry about the men described above doing the same? Sarah Fuller knows the risks, she's an adult, and she's objectively not in any more of a physical risk of getting steamrolled than many male D1 kickers
There are so many other parts of this yall are not seeing and never will. I am done.
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