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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Then take them away from the white kids on the team. LOL.

    What's hilarious is that the same people that will get pissed about scholarships potentially being taken away from minorities, are the same ones that fight tooth & nail for financial redistribution with the economy. So they'll be in a pickle.

    Additionally, add scholarships to baseball & create a diversity quota % for the sport if you want. Either way, it would make both sports better.
    In reality, a lot of baseball scholarships probably would go to minorities, at least if they got enough to start offering full scholarships. I'm assuming a lot of poorer baseball players go to minor league rather than college because even minimum wage is a lot better than taking out a loan for even just a quarter of tuition. Surely a lot of those players that are priced out of college baseball would be minorities?

    Or do they just not even get into baseball to begin with because of the costs of travel ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    In reality, a lot of baseball scholarships probably would go to minorities, at least if they got enough to start offering full scholarships. I'm assuming a lot of poorer baseball players go to minor league rather than college because even minimum wage is a lot better than taking out a loan for even just a quarter of tuition. Surely a lot of those players that are priced out of college baseball would be minorities?

    Or do they just not even get into baseball to begin with because of the costs of travel ball?
    Correct in all of the above
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    As a whole Gun, the South is football crazy overall, not so much for other parts of the country. I do think the Sec and particular the non blue bloods such as Msu, reducing scholarships by some would help slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    As a whole Gun, the South is football crazy overall, not so much for other parts of the country. I do think the Sec and particular the non blue bloods such as Msu, reducing scholarships by some would help slightly.
    Slightly is all the sport needs.

    I'm not vouching for a NWO. I'm just vouching for a system that provides some reasonable path to competitiveness. When your conference has only had 6 champs in 50 years, that's a problem.
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    So apparently we're getting on the plane today with 49 scholarship players. We've received a waiver from the SEC to play. Heath, Davis, and Wheat are also out due to contact tracing. 20 scholarship defensive players

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    So apparently we're getting on the plane today with 49 scholarship players. We've received a waiver from the SEC to play. Heath, Davis, and Wheat are also out due to contact tracing. 20 scholarship defensive players
    Onside kick every time. Just keep the defense off the field & let's play offense all day.

    It's the best way to avoid injury
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    I'll say this. I've got a lot of respect for the guys out there still fighting and putting it on the line for us. I know coaching on the offensive side of the ball is beyond horrendous, but our guys are still going out there and fighting each and every week. Tomorrow night is gonna be tough, but stranger things have happened. We're gonna be The Junction Boys 2.0 tomorrow night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Onside kick every time. Just keep the defense off the field & let's play offense all day.

    It's the best way to avoid injury
    Wouldn't you have to score and recover all of them first? I do not see *** with your statement so I have to assume you're being serious.

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    I'm actually happy to watch this game because these kids deserve support. I'm sure it'll get ugly, but I bet they play hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    ESPN drives the narrative and drives change. I've never heard them touch this topic.

    Just b/c you reduce football scholarships doesn't mean you have to redistribute them to another sport.

    The 25/85 rule is crazy. With redshirts you can sign 125 players over a 5 year cycle meaning Saban and Smart can "process" up to 40 mis-evaluations like Lashley and Nigel Knott ensuring their roster stays strong. Those programs are fool proof even against early NFL entries negating some of the advantage of having a veteran team.
    Carries down to the Group of 5 too. Southern Miss, Memphis, Tulane, etc.. Kids just want to play. P5 vs G5 games would be a little closer. NFL teams only have 54 players plus a practice squad. They do fine. I also hate the redshirt rule. Just give everyone 5 years, period. No redshirts, medical redshirts, exceptions, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    Wouldn't you have to score and recover all of them first? I do not see *** with your statement so I have to assume you're being serious.
    No. Even if they recover, they would score quicker, which would give the ball to our offense quicker & get the defense off the field.

    I'd seriously on-side kick every time & if we get beat 80-10, we get beat 80-10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I'm actually happy to watch this game because these kids deserve support. I'm sure it'll get ugly, but I bet they play hard.
    I agree and this can't be said enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I'm actually happy to watch this game because these kids deserve support. I'm sure it'll get ugly, but I bet they play hard.
    I'll watch at least the first half, but is playing hard all we expect from our football program now? I miss you mullen

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    With 20 players on defense yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'll watch at least the first half, but is playing hard all we expect from our football program now? I miss you mullen
    I mean we've got 49 players tomorrow.
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    Yes, playing our asses off is my only expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'll watch at least the first half, but is playing hard all we expect from our football program now? I miss you mullen
    lmao "they'll play hard"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I mean we've got 49 players tomorrow.
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    Yes, playing our asses off is my only expectation.
    Set the bar low enough, and you'll never have to fail leach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Set the bar low enough, and you'll never have to fail leach.
    Ok troll on

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    Quote Originally Posted by VandelayIndustries View Post
    With 20 players on defense yes
    Give some context then. What was number of defensive participants for each game? How many left on own accord? How many did leach dismiss? Injuries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Then take them away from the white kids on the team. LOL.

    What's hilarious is that the same people that will get pissed about scholarships potentially being taken away from minorities, are the same ones that fight tooth & nail for financial redistribution with the economy. So they'll be in a pickle.

    Additionally, add scholarships to baseball & create a diversity quota % for the sport if you want. Either way, it would make both sports better.
    Not interested in a minority quota for any sport, but people pretend that just cause your white means you can afford college for multiple kids. The opportunities are out there to get support for anyone who needs it.

    Giving those scholarships to baseball and track and field gives more minorities a chance to play college sports on scholarships. You guys telling me jesus can't hit a curve ball and black folks can't play d1 baseball?
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