Two players away from forfeit

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

I personally watched Mullen dress down in extreme language players, coaches, video staff, etc his first year here. Leaving because of that is an excuse and weak.

[Johnson85]

Those kids knew the rules though. And one of them had been in trouble before. The rules are the rules no matter what the job is.

Have we really kicked kids off the team for one failed drug test?

[Jack Lambert]

We can only sign 26 and that includes transfers. Most of our seniors are going to move on. We will not have 80 players on scholarship next season.

I think you are wrong. Ole Miss signed more than 26 when they came off restrictions.

https://247sports.com/college/ole-mi...tball/Commits/

[StarkVegasSteve]

I personally watched Mullen dress down in extreme language players, coaches, video staff, etc his first year here. Leaving because of that is an excuse and weak.

See this is where I'll give Leach a little bit of a reprieve. Mullen, Hev, and Co. were doing that from Day 1 when they stepped in the building. Those first winter workouts and spring practice was a gut check for a lot of players, coaches, and support staff. I remember hearing multiple stories of Dan's first meeting with the trainers, managers, support staff, etc. and he literally looked all of them in the face and said I'd fire every one of you if I could because my program doesn't employ losers. I believe that a few of these opt outs, transfers, or whatever you want to call them would've been solved in the spring. Now, the thing with Dan was that he wasn't cussing just to do it. He had a point he was trying to make as well. And he got that point across very quickly.

[TNDawg35]

The issue right now is 100 percent on Cohen for hiring Moorhead in the first place and the debacle after the Egg Bowl. He should?ve either fired him then when coaches like Drinkwitz were still available or kept him another year. If he hired Neal Brown when he had the chance after Mullen I would bet a lot of money we wouldn?t be in this situation. While I don?t think Leach will work here, he does get a pass this year due to COVID and the big mess he inherited. I kind of wish Moorhead would?ve stayed another year now knowing that Chadwell is out there and is available and has a really small buy out. Yes, I know he had some NCAA issues, but nothing compared to Freeze and people through around his name. He is the best coach out there for a school like Miss State. I have a feeling USC will hire Napier over him though and that will come back to bite them

The Moorehead debacle was on Keenum. Cohen had made it clear Moorehead was done after the egg bowl. When we won, Keenum told Cohen we couldn?t fire a coach who was 2-0 in the egg bow and back to back bowls. After the Gay/Schrader and Bowl performance, Keenum finally said ok he?s gone. Then Cohen fired him.

Napier was interested and was having serious talks until Keenum renighed. Once he did, Napier got butthurt and said eat shit when we came back to him the 2nd time.

That?s when Cohen was going with Judge and he was bringing in Will Hall and gonna be a ?CEO? type coach until the Giants came calling. I honestly think it would have been a good hire as long as he brought in a good staff and from all names I heard, he was.

Now the Moorehead hire was labeled as a great hire by literally everyone in the CFB.

The only thing I fought Cohen on is I would have went Satterfield instead of Moorhead.

[HoopsDawg]

I think you are wrong. Ole Miss signed more than 26 when they came off restrictions.

https://247sports.com/college/ole-mi...tball/Commits/

No, they could count more players back than we can.

[HoopsDawg]

We've had 13 transfers? I know we've had several but thought it was around 7 or 8 not 13.

Yes. 13 transfers.

[DLGDawg]

The Moorehead debacle was on Keenum. Cohen had made it clear Moorehead was done after the egg bowl. When we won, Keenum told Cohen we couldn?t fire a coach who was 2-0 in the egg bow and back to back bowls. After the Gay/Schrader and Bowl performance, Keenum finally said ok he?s gone. Then Cohen fired him.

Napier was interested and was having serious talks until Keenum renighed. Once he did, Napier got butthurt and said eat shit when we came back to him the 2nd time.

That?s when Cohen was going with Judge and he was bringing in Will Hall and gonna be a ?CEO? type coach until the Giants came calling. I honestly think it would have been a good hire as long as he brought in a good staff and from all names I heard, he was.

Now the Moorehead hire was labeled as a great hire by literally everyone in the CFB.

The only thing I fought Cohen on is I would have went Satterfield instead of Moorhead.

Off topic, but I saw where Judge got into a fist fight with one of his coaches. There's you some fire !!

[confucius say]

You mean do the same things Nick Saban, Bear Bryant, Pat Dye, Darrel K Royal, Steve Spurrier, and any other great coach you can name does or did?

Foootball isn't for pussies who get there feelings hurt.

And hevesy and mullen and crew. At least the cussing out and condescending part.

[confucius say]

Leach will succeed here and when he does, I will be screaming my head off at you guys for all your doom and gloom.

Define succeed. Bc even if he averages 7-5 like dan did, the goalposts will move.

[Cooterpoot]

Have we really kicked kids off the team for one failed drug test?

Yes. But those kids knew the rule. Two out of 80 kids didn't follow the rule.

[Cooterpoot]

I think you are wrong. Ole Miss signed more than 26 when they came off restrictions.

https://247sports.com/college/ole-mi...tball/Commits/

He's correct.

[FISHDAWG]

So going out and getting skull drug by Georgia and Ole Miss would be better than not playing? Wrong.

If you don't play, you can blame it on covid.

and yet people here are calling our players quitters** .... I heard Leach on the radio this am say we were playing Georgia and if there was a covid threat he was unaware of it but he was sure the media would let him know so he could plan accordingly ... another beaut from Leach - I loved it. I think we need to finish if possible and incorporate this season into the learning curve. Maybe the taste of this season will remain with the team and help drive better determination.

[Cooterpoot]

The Moorehead debacle was on Keenum. Cohen had made it clear Moorehead was done after the egg bowl. When we won, Keenum told Cohen we couldn?t fire a coach who was 2-0 in the egg bow and back to back bowls. After the Gay/Schrader and Bowl performance, Keenum finally said ok he?s gone. Then Cohen fired him.

Napier was interested and was having serious talks until Keenum renighed. Once he did, Napier got butthurt and said eat shit when we came back to him the 2nd time.

That?s when Cohen was going with Judge and he was bringing in Will Hall and gonna be a ?CEO? type coach until the Giants came calling. I honestly think it would have been a good hire as long as he brought in a good staff and from all names I heard, he was.

Now the Moorehead hire was labeled as a great hire by literally everyone in the CFB.

The only thing I fought Cohen on is I would have went Satterfield instead of Moorhead.

Correct except the Moorhead being a great hire part. SI wrote an article proclaiming him the next great thing. Lots of people didn't have the same opinion.

[Cowbell]

The best thing for us recruiting wise is to not play.

Agreed

[Dawgfan77]

Leach will succeed here and when he does, I will be screaming my head off at you guys for all your doom and gloom.

No he won't. We basically hired Ballard at the end of his career.

[msu15]

Man you are clueless

[CaptainObvious]

You and both know why those players were kicked off due to leach archaic rules...

You must have a pussified baby that was on the team. I?m sure he is a little sweetie-pie and the apple of your eye, but any player that walked because of Leach?s tough coaching style might as well have the sex change.

[SPMT]

I personally watched Mullen dress down in extreme language players, coaches, video staff, etc his first year here. Leaving because of that is an excuse and weak.

Amen!

Saw the same.

[msbulldog]

You mean do the same things Nick Saban, Bear Bryant, Pat Dye, Darrel K Royal, Steve Spurrier, and any other great coach you can name does or did?

Foootball isn't for pussies who get there feelings hurt.

And Mullen, Hev, Grantham and the rest of that crew.