Coaching today's players has gotta be tough

[Indndawg]

trying to find that balance between being a hard ass and running off needed players and a wimp (see Jo Mo).

90's JWS was prolly the best at this.

[Fader21]

It's crazy how much more they care about tiktok followers they have or showing off the Snapchat model/70 year old guy they are talking to from LA

[Indndawg]

It's crazy how much more they care about tiktok followers they have or showing off the Snapchat model/70 year old guy they are talking to from LA

and young, urban culture.

Young men use to want tough, firm, but caring leadership. Not so sure about that today

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yup

[ShotgunDawg]

trying to find that balance between being a hard ass and running off needed players and a wimp (see Jo Mo).

90's JWS was prolly the best at this.

It's not hard to coach the good players, who crave getting better & take coaching well. "The future NFL guys". Simmons, Sweat, Abram, Preston Smith, Dak, Calhoun, Jenkins, Ballard, McKinney, etc wouldn't have any issues with Leach's coaching style. In fact, they may love it. Someone should ask Kobe Jones about Leach's coaching style. He's our only leader right now.

When it's hard to coach your players, you have a culture issue.

What people don't realize, is once Leach gets his culture set, the players will really like him because the team will police itself. About 90% of the problem right now is that the coaches are having to police the team culture instead of the players because we lack leadership.

Once leaders emerge, all the sudden the coaches will become much more likeable and everyone will think they changed when they really didn't.

They just have a standard that currently isn't being met.

[bluelightstar]

It's not hard to coach the good players, who crave getting better & take coaching well. "The future NFL guys"

When it's hard to coach your players, you have a culture issue.

What people don't realize, is once Leach gets his culture set, the players will really like him because the team will police itself. About 90% of the problem right now is that the coaches are having to police the team culture instead of the players because we lack leadership.

Once leaders emerge, all the sudden the coaches will become much more likeable and everyone will think they changed when they really didn't.

They just have a standard that currently isn't being met.

The fact that there are articles about Leach’s players pretty openly not liking him but going along because he gets results suggests that is not going to change. But whatever, I want him to win; I don’t much care if they all are best friends.

[ShotgunDawg]

The fact that there are articles about Leach’s players pretty openly not liking him but going along because he gets results suggests that is not going to change. But whatever, I want him to win; I don’t much care if they all are best friends.

Do you have a link to one of those articles? I'd love to hear what the players had to say

[basedog]

It's not hard to coach the good players, who crave getting better & take coaching well. "The future NFL guys". Simmons, Sweat, Abram, Preston Smith, Dak, Calhoun, Jenkins, Ballard, McKinney, etc wouldn't have any issues with Leach's coaching style. In fact, they may love it. Someone should ask Kobe Jones about Leach's coaching style. He's our only leader right now.

When it's hard to coach your players, you have a culture issue.

What people don't realize, is once Leach gets his culture set, the players will really like him because the team will police itself. About 90% of the problem right now is that the coaches are having to police the team culture instead of the players because we lack leadership.

Once leaders emerge, all the sudden the coaches will become much more likeable and everyone will think they changed when they really didn't.

They just have a standard that currently isn't being met.

I see more problems from so called "advisor/agents" and mostly parents of today's generations. Today's players are more "politically correct" or protesting and disregard discipline when needed. I blame poor parenting to a much of today's problems in sports and in schools.
Kids today or soft overall, it's pretty easy to see, plus social media is a bitch!!!

[ShotgunDawg]

I see more problems from so called "advisor/agents" and mostly parents of today's generations. Today's players are more "politically correct" or protesting and disregard discipline when needed. I blame poor parenting to a much of today's problems in sports and in schools.
Kids today or soft overall, it's pretty easy to see, plus social media is a bitch!!!

I don't disagree, but literally every generation in the history of mankind has complained about the next generation in this way & we've managed

[HoopsDawg]

The free 1 time transfer is making it even tougher to coach and that is only going to get worse. Probably get name, likeness and image payments soon as well. College football will never be the same.

[ShotgunDawg]

The free 1 time transfer is making it even tougher to coach and that is only going to get worse. Probably get name, likeness and image payments soon as well. College football will never be the same.

The ones you want to keep will stay and be fine. It will expose the below average makeup kids though

[BuckyIsAB****]

The free 1 time transfer is making it even tougher to coach and that is only going to get worse. Probably get name, likeness and image payments soon as well. College football will never be the same.

The transfer rule killed any sense of work ethic or patience. Especially at QB.

[Commercecomet24]

I see more problems from so called "advisor/agents" and mostly parents of today's generations. Today's players are more "politically correct" or protesting and disregard discipline when needed. I blame poor parenting to a much of today's problems in sports and in schools.
Kids today or soft overall, it's pretty easy to see, plus social media is a bitch!!!

Well said!

[Commercecomet24]

I heard this form a coach one time and I've found it to be true: "On great teams, players lead. On good teams, coaches lead. On bad teams nobody leads".

[ShotgunDawg]

I heard this form a coach one time and I've found it to be true: "On great teams, players lead. On good teams, coaches lead. On bad teams nobody leads".

THIS. It's true

MSU football is in an odd situation right now because the older guys that should be the current leaders have not been developed to be that due to coaching changes & Moorhead's staff.

That will change soon

[parabrave]

One thing My BN Commander told me when I was a young infantry platoon leader in the 82nd Airborne Division. Always be Firm with your men. But always be fair. They look to you for leadership not to be their buddy. This holds true to today.

[Cooterpoot]

Kids today struggle to handle being told no and struggle to understand other players are better than them. They struggle with the team concept over individuality. Their parents undermine the coaching. They've been told they're great by their parents, friends, and sometimes club coaches so much they can't handle reality. Kids lack coping skills. God forbid a coach calls you soft, points out your short-comings or something trying to push you to get better. Good coaches will always play the best available. That doesn't mean the most potential. It means the ones that get it done. Remember when kids appreciated a tough coach that forced the best out of them? Far fewer kids appreciate that now because mama tells them the coach is an asshole. Kids want discipline and direction. Parents want the easy way. And it bleeds over.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I see more problems from so called "advisor/agents" and mostly parents of today's generations. Today's players are more "politically correct" or protesting and disregard discipline when needed. I blame poor parenting to a much of today's problems in sports and in schools.
Kids today or soft overall, it's pretty easy to see, plus social media is a bitch!!!

I blame the boomers. They raised a bunch of little pansy as kids, they started the participation trophies, they couldn't stand not being their kids best friends. And now here we are.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Kids today struggle to handle being told no and struggle to understand other players are better than them. They struggle with the team concept over individuality. Their parents undermine the coaching. They've been told they're great by their parents, friends, and sometimes club coaches so much they can't handle reality. Kids lack coping skills. God forbid a coach calls you soft, points out your short-comings or something trying to push you to get better. Good coaches will always play the best available. That doesn't mean the most potential. It means the ones that get it done. Remember when kids appreciated a tough coach that forced the best out of them? Far fewer kids appreciate that now because mama tells them the coach is an asshole. Kids want discipline and direction. Parents want the easy way. And it bleeds over.

except kylin and aeris. Aeris is still better.

[basedog]

I blame the boomers. They raised a bunch of little pansy as kids, they started the participation trophies, they couldn't stand not being their kids best friends. And now here we are.

Wrong on boomers!!!