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11-15-2020, 06:40 PM
#201
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Spring practice isn't the reason, it's an excuse. Other new SEC coaches with less experience didn't have Spring practice and are progressing just fine. Truthfully, he should have adapted easily with his tenure despite no Spring practices.
What would you have done differently than Leach?
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11-15-2020, 06:41 PM
#202
Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
Do you consider Leach as a leader?
He has been for 20 years
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11-15-2020, 06:54 PM
#203
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Any insight on why we?ve had more trouble than other teams?
Honestly, I think our team leaders saw their "leadership role" as some social responsibility to "challenge" the current leadership structure, which flies in the face of Leach's philosophy. It's just a bad fit short term. We're going to have to see a lot of turnover in players before we start to have success IMO. We're likely 2 years away from having a solid enough base to work with, but in the Covid post-2020 world anything is bound to happen.
Others will know more specifics about what's going on in the locker room, but it's clear that the lines have been drawn and too many people are standing on one side or the other instead working together.
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11-15-2020, 07:24 PM
#204
It appears we got about the worst combination of circumstances right now, team and coach. Leach can institute discipline and fix the culture without pushing the entire team out. He is making this a lot harder than it has to be. I know there are some good kids and good players on the team that don't need attitude adjustments.
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11-15-2020, 07:27 PM
#205
Originally Posted by
PendingTransaction
By the way, are any of your coworkers parents to D1 football players?
No
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11-15-2020, 07:30 PM
#206
This is going to be okay by next year, good in 2 years and great after that. I am thinking 6, then 8, then 9-10 wins in the next 3 years. Nothing a decent signing class and 10 grad transfers (or however many it takes) can’t fix.
No coach has done more with less at harder places than Leach. It has taken 2-3 years at both previous stops and it will again, apparently.
Are there ways he could make it easier on himself. No doubt. But he will get ‘his guys’ and get there in the end, as always. Fighting uphill as an underdog is his mode. I guess that is just the way it has to be.
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11-15-2020, 07:42 PM
#207
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
What would you have done differently than Leach?
Adapt his air raid to the current rosters strengths. It ultimately would have been a more balanced offense. He could have gradually implemented more of what he wants. It's poor coaching to force a square peg into a round hole.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 11-15-2020 at 07:45 PM.
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11-15-2020, 08:19 PM
#208
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Adapt his air raid to the current rosters strengths. It ultimately would have been a more balanced offense. He could have gradually implemented more of what he wants. It's poor coaching to force a square peg into a round hole.
I don’t disagree with this.
What about from a work ethic, drugs, and standards standpoint?
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11-15-2020, 08:21 PM
#209
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I don’t disagree with this.
What about from a work ethic, drugs, and standards standpoint?
You got me wanting to quit my job, and move to Starkville to sell hard drugs. Our team is nothing but hard core drug addicts
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11-15-2020, 08:31 PM
#210
Originally Posted by
Walkerhill
This is going to be okay by next year, good in 2 years and great after that. I am thinking 6, then 8, then 9-10 wins in the next 3 years. Nothing a decent signing class and 10 grad transfers (or however many it takes) can’t fix.
No coach has done more with less at harder places than Leach. It has taken 2-3 years at both previous stops and it will again, apparently.
Are there ways he could make it easier on himself. No doubt. But he will get ‘his guys’ and get there in the end, as always. Fighting uphill as an underdog is his mode. I guess that is just the way it has to be.
Wow ... amazing!
We'll be lucky to win 6 by the third year. And it takes a bit more than one "decent" signing class to have a team capable of winning 9-10 games in this conference.
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11-15-2020, 08:32 PM
#211
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I don’t disagree with this.
What about from a work ethic, drugs, and standards standpoint?
The majority of these players leaving don't fall within your listed categories. They've worked hard, followed the standards, and have run into a brick wall with results. The coach can't provide answers he's instead blaming them. You'd get upset too. He's also too blame on whom he sends on the field.
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11-15-2020, 08:51 PM
#212
Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
It appears we got about the worst combination of circumstances right now, team and coach. Leach can institute discipline and fix the culture without pushing the entire team out. He is making this a lot harder than it has to be. I know there are some good kids and good players on the team that don't need attitude adjustments.
He didn't make those kids smoke weed. He didn't make them quit or opt out. They all chose to. That's on the kid.
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11-15-2020, 09:05 PM
#213
Originally Posted by
msugolf
Wow ... amazing!
We'll be lucky to win 6 by the third year. And it takes a bit more than one "decent" signing class to have a team capable of winning 9-10 games in this conference.
I am brave enough to put my opinion on the record. Guess we?ll see next few years.
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11-15-2020, 09:12 PM
#214
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
He didn't make those kids smoke weed. He didn't make them quit or opt out. They all chose to. That's on the kid.
The kids didn?t make him run an offense that apparently everyone except Bo Pelini has figured out. They didn?t make him refuse to adapt to the personnel that he was given. He chose to be stubborn. That?s on the coach being paid 5 million to win games this year, not in 3 years when he has ?his? players here.
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11-15-2020, 09:23 PM
#215
Originally Posted by
was21
Hint: Leach is apparently a vocal trump supporter. Maybe we'll end up with a team of mormons...white boys riding bicycles with black pants and short sleeve shirts with slim black ties.
It's worked pretty good at BYU!
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11-15-2020, 09:35 PM
#216
Originally Posted by
Percho
It's worked pretty good at BYU!
Those Mormons are 26 though due to the 4 year mission they take.
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11-15-2020, 09:54 PM
#217
Don't know if leach can average 7-5 here like dan did or not, but it is clear he ain't worried about winning this year. That is clear from the roster overhaul and letting shrader walk.
So we can all stop saying he should adapt to win now his scheme to fit this roster and win now. He ain't worried about that and it's obvious.
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11-15-2020, 09:55 PM
#218
Leach was hired to win- thats the bottom line. Next year will make or break I think. If 2021 isnt any better- then things will get interesting. If Leach is still struggling quite a bit- there is going to be problems and hell raising. And it should be.
Last edited by Coach34; 11-15-2020 at 09:58 PM.
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11-15-2020, 09:57 PM
#219
Keep in mind, Leach will likely need about 4 years to hit .500. We got rid of our last coach when everyone wanted, now we're gonna have to be patient whether we like it of not. Now if he loses his first two Eggbowls he could be in early trouble.
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11-15-2020, 10:00 PM
#220
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Leach was hired to win- thats the bottom line. Next year will make or break I think. If 2021 isnt any better- then things will get interesting. If Leach is still struggling quite a bit- there is going to be problems and hell raising. And it should be.
Next year is a terrible schedule with Arky, Aub, and A&M on the road. At Auburn is a loss no matter what. Arkansas is likely a loss as is A&M....as well as LSU and Bama and possibly NC State.
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