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    Fact is an 0 win 58 player Vandy team held us to under 300 yds of total offense. In other words they figured out how to defend us just like everyone else. The Air Raid will not work in the SEC. why do you think in 20 years no one had run it in this conference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    Fact is an 0 win 58 player Vandy team held us to under 300 yds of total offense. In other words they figured out how to defend us just like everyone else. The Air Raid will not work in the SEC. why do you think in 20 years no one had run it in this conference?
    Saying under 300 is pretty generous to us... we had 204. They were giving up 499 yds/game entering our game. OM had 641 last week vs them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Whether or not Leach "should" get an extension, there is a 100% chance he will. Croom, Ray, and Moorhead got full extensions every year, and it was the right call. It would tank recruiting, coach retention, and fan support for the AD to so publicly disbelieve in our coach like that.
    Those were 100% not the right call. You just disproved yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Saying under 300 is pretty generous to us... we had 204. They were giving up 499 yds/game entering our game. OM had 641 last week vs them
    You just made my point more valid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    The Air Raid will not work in the SEC. why do you think in 20 years no one had run it in this conference?
    I have doubts it will work as well, but the fact that nobody else has tried to run it in the SEC is not the reason. I really don't know anyone else that runs the Air Raid in the same way Leach does anywhere in any P5 league. Nobody in the Big 12 or Pac 12 ran the Leach style Air Raid either while he was there but that didn't stop it from being effective. In fact, the Air Raid did work at KY in the 90s but I agree that defenses have evolved significantly in the SEC since then to defend the pass game.

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    The Air Raid worked at Kentucky because they ran the ball 25 times per game at Kentucky. Leach's Air Raid is different from Mumme's at Kentucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The Air Raid worked at Kentucky because they ran the ball 25 times per game at Kentucky. Leach's Air Raid is different from Mumme's at Kentucky
    ....and let's face it, they still weren't that successful even with Tim Couch.

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    Could L E A C H win big with H I S offense at Alabama?

    That question is to all who posted before this post.

    YES or NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Could L E A C H win big with H I S offense at Alabama?

    That question is to all who posted before this post.

    YES or NO!
    On our current 3 play, playlist. Pass 1 yard only and no runs. Win big being 10-15 wins. An emphatic No.

    Win 6 and go bowling, Maybe. Also possible they have a losing season with that formula.

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    Leach is going to have to prove he can't ever win again before he gets fired here. That's two more seasons away. I think it's crazy that some of our fans think we could just go out and get any of these named coaches they want. Our job, to you, and to me, is not what it seems to people on the outside. It's still considered a dead end place to the media and the coaching world. Don't believe it, just watch how the fake pundits in the media continue to patronize us, as if we haven't had a winning season in modern times.

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    Methinks Leach was a named coach 90 to 95 percent of our fans wanted but thought we would never be able to hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Leach is going to have to prove he can't ever win again before he gets fired here. That's two more seasons away. I think it's crazy that some of our fans think we could just go out and get any of these named coaches they want. Our job, to you, and to me, is not what it seems to people on the outside. It's still considered a dead end place to the media and the coaching world. Don't believe it, just watch how the fake pundits in the media continue to patronize us, as if we haven't had a winning season in modern times.
    Totally disagree with this.

    We hired Jackie Sherrill- who had a natty on his resume. His NCAA baggage was his problem.
    Croom was just a bad idea and hiring him over Jimbo Fisher is still one of the dumbest things LT ever did.
    Mullen was playing for a Natty and considered one of the top OC's in the country
    JoVester was considered a top OC in the country. Just turned out to be a bad HC
    Leach has been successful and we hired him away from a P5 school

    We havent had any problems in the last 30 years hiring a football coach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Methinks Leach was a named coach 90 to 95 percent of our fans wanted but thought we would never be able to hire.
    I was thrilled to get him. I am worried though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    The Air Raid worked at Kentucky because they ran the ball 25 times per game at Kentucky. Leach's Air Raid is different from Mumme's at Kentucky
    And that team had big wins the first year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Totally disagree with this.

    We hired Jackie Sherrill- who had a natty on his resume. His NCAA baggage was his problem.
    Croom was just a bad idea and hiring him over Jimbo Fisher is still one of the dumbest things LT ever did.
    Mullen was playing for a Natty and considered one of the top OC's in the country
    JoVester was considered a top OC in the country. Just turned out to be a bad HC
    Leach has been successful and we hired him away from a P5 school

    We havent had any problems in the last 30 years hiring a football coach
    Dead on 34. The MSU victim thing is so old. We are our own worst enemy.

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    Leach is blaming everyone but himself. Dude is past his coaching prime and a dinosaur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Great idea. Let's run off another coach who will land another job and have success somewhere else while we keep rebuilding with the same players who haven't worked for the past two coaches. And then blame the next coach when it doesn't work again...
    Great idea.

    Or we couldve hired Sam Pittman and won a few extra games

    God we have some stupid fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Totally disagree with this.

    We hired Jackie Sherrill- who had a natty on his resume. His NCAA baggage was his problem.
    Croom was just a bad idea and hiring him over Jimbo Fisher is still one of the dumbest things LT ever did.
    Mullen was playing for a Natty and considered one of the top OC's in the country
    JoVester was considered a top OC in the country. Just turned out to be a bad HC
    Leach has been successful and we hired him away from a P5 school

    We havent had any problems in the last 30 years hiring a football coach
    Leach was the third guy on Cohen's list at BEST. Including behind Napier who didn't want the job and Judge who is an alum- of course he got a NFL job.

    Moorhead was behind Ryan Day who took the Ohio State job.

    We're not bad- but we're not exactly getting our pick of the litter either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr. View Post
    Great idea.

    Or we couldve hired Sam Pittman and won a few extra games

    God we have some stupid fans
    Yeah- well "we" didn't. If you think that Sam Pittman would win with this group then I'm not the stupid one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Yeah- well "we" didn't. If you think that Sam Pittman would win with this group then I'm not the stupid one.
    If you read that and thought the point was "we should've hired Sam Pittman", you are stupid

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