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    Welcome to the board / glad to have you!
    I too have been following Leach since his TT days - I didn't doubt him at all early on but these last few games have me wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    Welcome to the board / glad to have you!
    I too have been following Leach since his TT days - I didn't doubt him at all early on but these last few games have me wondering.
    My guess is you’ve only ever watched Leach with the right QB. Rogers is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    My guess is you?ve only ever watched Leach with the right QB. Rogers is that.
    Most of my neighbors are Tech fans - I've been watching Leach since he left Kentucky. Always been a big fan and liked the idea of us hiring him. I've watched him much more than you and with good and bad qbs. Where I might have overestimated him is assuming he would quickly make adjustments to account for speed and size of SEC defensive fronts. That has not happened and really surprises me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    Most of my neighbors are Tech fans - I've been watching Leach since he left Kentucky. Always been a big fan and liked the idea of us hiring him. I've watched him much more than you and with good and bad qbs. Where I might have overestimated him is assuming he would quickly make adjustments to account for speed and size of SEC defensive fronts. That has not happened and really surprises me.
    He has a career record of 7-3 against A&M. Do you really think he has not seen fronts as big and fast as Kentucky and Arkansas? I don't understand the thought process of some of you guys. It really isn't the "big bad SEC defenses".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    He has a career record of 7-3 against A&M. Do you really think he has not seen fronts as big and fast as Kentucky and Arkansas? I don't understand the thought process of some of you guys. It really isn't the "big bad SEC defenses".
    His career record against A&M was in the big 12 days. They did not have the speed/size combination up front that they have today. And I'm not talking about big bad SEC defenses. I'm talking about him putting our young OTs on an island with guys who will be playing on Sundays soon and giving them no reason to do anything but pass rush.
    You can act like we are stupid all you want, but 4 games in and we look horrid up front. We look worse up front now than we did under Joe. So he does have some adjustments to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    My guess is you?ve only ever watched Leach with the right QB. Rogers is that.
    Can we hold off just a little bit on anointing him the next Joe Montana? *****

    ETA: Personally I think Leach sucks and needs to scrap his entire offense to get back to what we do which is ... RTGDF. Those teams at WSU & TT were flukes *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Do you really think he isn't going to figure it out?

    We're talking about a top 5 offensive mind in the past quarter century of college football. Do you really think he isn't going to figure this out and we're going to have DL running through our line untouched for the next 5 years?

    Really?

    While currently frustrating, I just think this whole offensive meltdown is an absolute nothing burger. I would be absolutely shocked if Leach doesn't easily figure this out.
    How long until he adjusts? He's been running wide splits for 20 years. He's been running basically the same plays for 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    How long until he adjusts? He's been running wide splits for 20 years. He's been running basically the same plays for 20 years.
    I'm still not sure he needs to adjusts. To say that I know more about his offense and offensive football in general than he does is would be absurd and delusional on my part.

    He may be stubborn, but I'm pretty confident he's going to do what's necessary to prevent DL from running untouched at the QB. I can't imagine that last for long because he knows that we can't even see if his offense will work in the SEC with that going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    His career record against A&M was in the big 12 days. They did not have the speed/size combination up front that they have today. And I'm not talking about big bad SEC defenses. I'm talking about him putting our young OTs on an island with guys who will be playing on Sundays soon and giving them no reason to do anything but pass rush.
    You can act like we are stupid all you want, but 4 games in and we look horrid up front. We look worse up front now than we did under Joe. So he does have some adjustments to make.
    Exactly. You could argue this 3 game stretch is some of the worst coaching in modern day football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Exactly. You could argue this 3 game stretch is some of the worst coaching in modern day football.
    Give this coach a year or 2 or 3! Covid season, no spring, rebuild this system ... Jesus, you guys act like we were potentially winning the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKADogs55 View Post
    Give this coach a year or 2 or 3! Covid season, no spring, rebuild this system ... Jesus, you guys act like we were potentially winning the West.
    I think 90% of us get that. But we are still going to point out that he could be doing better in the present than what he is doing. And that's all we have to go on right now. I'm personally surprised he has coached this bad.

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    His system works.. it takes a lot of practice to get it right. He gets his players to out execute yours with tons of reps. Get this.. it works... It may take some time but it works. Leech's offense will score points in the coming years in a way that we have never seen.


    My only concern is our defense will fade due to his lack of recruiting. He keeps that defensive talent level high and playing like it is this year, and this team is going to be a tough out for anyone in the years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKADogs55 View Post
    Give this coach a year or 2 or 3! Covid season, no spring, rebuild this system ... Jesus, you guys act like we were potentially winning the West.
    He will get his 3 years. I expect improvement. Doesn't change the fact that these past 3 games have been horrible from a coaching standpoint.

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