Mike Leach

[Dogbone]

I graduated from Miss St in 1980 and have followed our football program since I was a little kid. I'm fairly new to the board and don't post much but I do read most of them. I've followed Leach from TT to Wsh St and to here. I truly believe we will see a solid program in the near future. You have to give him and his staff something to work with, and we don't have much. Give him a little time to find the guys that fit his offense. He will deliver.
Hail State!

[ShotgunDawg]

Welcome!

We'll be good under him I have no doubt. And we'll be good soon.

That being said, however, to be great he's going to have to make some minor adjustments to his offense. We'll see if his pride is based on his system or his legacy as a winning coach

I think both sides are right one this and it isn't black and white. For those that think he won't win because he won't adjust, I disagree. And for those that say he he'll win big with no adjustments, I disagree. Both sides are right.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

When Matt Wyatt makes the radio rounds and you hear a common topic among MSU podcasts, you know that came from the athletic department. The common theme at this time seems to be to bunker down and prepare for at least a year or two of suckage to get his system in place. If you think he is going anywhere anytime soon, minus a major scandal, you are going to be disappointed.

[ShotgunDawg]

When Matt Wyatt makes the radio rounds and you hear a common topic among MSU podcasts, you know that came from the athletic department. The common theme at this time seems to be to bunker down and prepare for at least a year or two of suckage to get his system in place. If you think he is going anywhere anytime soon, minus a major scandal, you are going to be disappointed.

I haven’t heard that at all.

[bluelightstar]

I graduated from Miss St in 1980 and have followed our football program since I was a little kid. I'm fairly new to the board and don't post much but I do read most of them. I've followed Leach from TT to Wsh St and to here. I truly believe we will see a solid program in the near future. You have to give him and his staff something to work with, and we don't have much. Give him a little time to find the guys that fit his offense. He will deliver.
Hail State!

We are a program that has been to 10 straight bowl games and probably had 5 or 6 straight top-30 recruiting classes. We shouldn't be in the SEC title game, but it is ludicrous to act like we don't have enough talent on campus to have performed better than we did in October. This is not Washington State or Texas Tech, programs that were in the complete doldrums. If you can't generate more than 21 offensive points against Kentucky, Arkansas, and Texas A&M, it's time to look in a mirror and check your ego about what works and what doesn't.

[ShotgunDawg]

We are a program that has been to 10 straight bowl games and probably had 5 or 6 straight top-30 recruiting classes. We shouldn't be in the SEC title game, but it is ludicrous to act like we don't have enough talent on campus to have performed better than we did in October.

We absolutely have enough talent to perform better than we did in October but with so many extenuating circumstances this season, it's just unfair to hold this staff to the same standard that we would hold every other staff too. It's not an excuse, but it's just reality. There are real extenuating circumstances this year that make it really really tough to grade the staff out fairly.

That being said, I'm starting to see life on the offensive side and expect them to get it together soon. If I'm sitting here before the Egg Bowl and we're still sucking on offense, then I'm going to have issues with the staff

[BogeyGolfer]

We are a program that has been to 10 straight bowl games and probably had 5 or 6 straight top-30 recruiting classes. We shouldn't be in the SEC title game, but it is ludicrous to act like we don't have enough talent on campus to have performed better than we did in October. This is not Washington State or Texas Tech, programs that were in the complete doldrums. If you can't generate more than 21 offensive points against Kentucky, Arkansas, and Texas A&M, it's time to look in a mirror and check your ego about what works and what doesn't.

We are not very talented at O-Line or at WR...when we fix those two things, we will get better.....

[1bigdawg]

We are not very talented at O-Line or at WR...when we fix those two things, we will get better.....

Before the season, Pro Football Focus said we have 4 OLs that were in the top ten at their position.

[ShotgunDawg]

Before the season, Pro Football Focus said we have 4 OLs that were in the top ten at their position.

I don't think talent is the problem on the OL. It's more assignments, guys having to perform different skills than what they're used to, and coaches still learning how to get through to each individual player. It's take time for coaches to learn what players respond to

[basedog]

I don't think talent is the problem on the OL. It's more assignments, guys having to perform different skills than what they're used to, and coaches still learning how to get through to each individual player. It's take time for coaches to learn what players respond to

I have to laugh Gun, that is a very iffy observation, just keep pumping Leach and forget why it isn't working. Blocking ain't complicated, it ain't like teams are going all out on blitzing.

How bout Leach finding a way to mix up things such as a few running plays with some imagination? 28.5 ypc, you got to be kidding me? I'm not convinced but I hope we win and at least score a few points if not, you think Covid is the blame, wait till there will be no attendance.

[Rejlector84sports]

Consider all that Leach has had to deal with this year:

1) COVID disallowed a new coach with a new system the necessary time and practice to install a system that few, if any, of the players he had ever played under. No matter what fans may think the Air Raid takes practice to learn. Leach did not have the spring or fall practices or off-season training sessions to get things going.

2) Because most of the players now have not played in Air Raid before this year nothing is rote when it comes to plays. As players play things that are taught become second nature. Mullen did not play Air Raid, Moorhead did not play Air Raid, so the offensive players have not played it either.

3) MSU had no chance for "tune-in" games with lesser opponents that would provide true game experience before jumping into the malestrom known at SEC play.

4) Getting time to develop the Air Raid at Texas Tech and Washington State is a lot easier with the lesser teams in the SWC and Pac-12. In the SEC you have to jump right in and don't have "lesser teams" to play against -- true sink or swim...

I feel that too many fans have become jaded in past success that they tend to forget that Mississippi State, before Jackie Sherrill's term, was a constant second-runner. Such is possible every year when you play in the toughest division of the toughest conference in the country. Someone has got to be the bottom team in the SEC West and for many years MSU was that team. That may not look good in the scheme of playing in the SEC, but I guarantee there are a lot of teams that would gladly be in last place in the division of this conference than be the top team of a much lesser conference.

I personally think, with the added experience of 40 years since graduation, that Leach will make a good team at MSU. We will have growing pains for these are unusual circumstances but there will be improvement and will return to glory in the SEC,

[R2Dawg]

We are a program that has been to 10 straight bowl games and probably had 5 or 6 straight top-30 recruiting classes. We shouldn't be in the SEC title game, but it is ludicrous to act like we don't have enough talent on campus to have performed better than we did in October. This is not Washington State or Texas Tech, programs that were in the complete doldrums. If you can't generate more than 21 offensive points against Kentucky, Arkansas, and Texas A&M, it's time to look in a mirror and check your ego about what works and what doesn't.

Yep, I am tired of people saying we don't have talent or the right kind of talent. That no talent team threw and caught against defending NC for an SEC record. We have enough talent to compete and win games. Our pathetic showing on O has nothing to do with talent but about our O plan, execution, and play calling - yep it all starts with coaching. Winning 5-6 this year was reasonable. SEC ain't that good overall.

Do I think he can win? Yes but he gotta be more aggressive on adjustments. This can't drag out 3 years trying to prove your philosophy would work without any changes in the SEC. HC are hired to win, period. We are not a Beta test site for football experiments.

[Todd4State]

Welcome! And good post- I have been following Leach for awhile myself and I agree.

[desotodawg]

A big part of the reason ppl are griping is because the lane train took bama to wire. But they are a KY defensive play from having the same record as us. They just looked better losing.

I agree with Todd and Shotgun. We are getting closer. I think if Rogers practices as the starter the next two weeks we will score points against bama.

The WRs are learning to sit in the open space when the D is in a zone. Rogers made a great pass in the zone gap for about 15-20 yards up field. That is how good QBs are supposed to do it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

A big part of the reason ppl are griping is because the lane train took bama to wire. But they are a KY defensive play from having the same record as us. They just looked better losing.

I agree with Todd and Shotgun. We are getting closer. I think if Rogers practices as the starter the next two weeks we will score points against bama.

The WRs are learning to sit in the open space when the D is in a zone. Rogers made a great pass in the zone gap for about 15-20 yards up field. That is how good QBs are supposed to do it.

Being at the very least competitive is a big improvement over what we have been seeing this season. That is on the players. No one is stepping up, starting with the OL. Including our All American RB that taps out after every other play. Including our WRs that seem to run directly into coverage when they could go under coverage. Also the WRs haven't thrown a single block that I have noticed.

[ShotgunDawg]

Being at the very least competitive is a big improvement over what we have been seeing this season. That is on the players. No one is stepping up, starting with the OL. Including our All American RB that taps out after every other play. Including our WRs that seem to run directly into coverage when they could go under coverage. Also the WRs haven't thrown a single block that I have noticed.

They’re starting to step up. We’ll see if Kylin joins the party

[ShotgunDawg]

A big part of the reason ppl are griping is because the lane train took bama to wire. But they are a KY defensive play from having the same record as us. They just looked better losing.

I agree with Todd and Shotgun. We are getting closer. I think if Rogers practices as the starter the next two weeks we will score points against bama.

The WRs are learning to sit in the open space when the D is in a zone. Rogers made a great pass in the zone gap for about 15-20 yards up field. That is how good QBs are supposed to do it.

We’ve got the same record

[Leroy Jenkins]

A big part of the reason ppl are griping is because the lane train took bama to wire. But they are a KY defensive play from having the same record as us. They just looked better losing.

I agree with Todd and Shotgun. We are getting closer. I think if Rogers practices as the starter the next two weeks we will score points against bama.

The WRs are learning to sit in the open space when the D is in a zone. Rogers made a great pass in the zone gap for about 15-20 yards up field. That is how good QBs are supposed to do it.

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[deltadawg63]

Actually OM would be 0-4 without Kentucky celebrating a score before he scored. I agree with these comments and understood from the beginning that Leach inherited more talent here than he did at his previous 2 starts but one must remember that it is all relative to who you have to play and their ability...he was also not facing 4 SEC teams to start the season at those 2 places, and I have to believe he is also a little taken back with the speed of defenses in the SEC, especially DL. There is a reason that the SEC has dominated the NFL draft, especially on the defensive side, over the past 8-10 years.

All good coaches are able to adjust, even slightly, and be somewhat adaptable in order to compete against the best each week...Saban even has. So I expect Leach to do so as well, even if he does not mentioned or acknowledge that he is doing so.

Time will tell.

[msbulldog]

I graduated from Miss St in 1980 and have followed our football program since I was a little kid. I'm fairly new to the board and don't post much but I do read most of them. I've followed Leach from TT to Wsh St and to here. I truly believe we will see a solid program in the near future. You have to give him and his staff something to work with, and we don't have much. Give him a little time to find the guys that fit his offense. He will deliver.
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