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We win today if Will Rogers starts
Why do MSU coaches play veterans over better players? It's insane. I think Rogers has to start going forward though. If he can get us to 21-28 this year we will have a chance to win some games and I think that will tip the scales for us the second half of the year.
I'm encouraged about the future. We are playing a lot of young players- Rogers, Marks, D. Johnson, Walley, Cross, Dolla Bill, and Cole Smith on offense. And then our defense has a lot of young players too- Pickering, Crumedy, Brule, Preston, Forbes, and Emerson. Once we add in guys like Tulu and Dean and then our recruits like Nabors, Knox, Jacobi Moore, Pounders, and hopefully win some battles for art Cooper and Callaway the future is really bright.
Losing sucks right now but I think we're pretty close to getting this turned around.
I thought Heath and Osiris played well today after I spent all last week bashing them. I hope they have turned a corner and finish the year strong.
Not a lot we can do about the o-line. Hevesy recruited most of the seniors we have been playing and now people see why I complained so hard. **** that guy. We probably need to bring in about 3-4 JUCO offensive linemen and then hold an all out competition next year.
Our defense is legit- they really only allowed the two long TD drives and I can live with that any game. Aside from the blocked punt we were solid again on special teams. Hopefully we can find a punt returner that can bust some returns like Kevin Prentiss used to.
Once Leach gets us going we're going to be really good. Our young guys are taking their lumps right now but their time is coming.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Once Leach gets us going we're going to be really good. Our young guys are taking their lumps right now but their time is coming.
I agree in principle. We looked better today than the last 2 weeks. We will kill it when CML gets everyone on the same page. Patience. It is happening and it will be glorious.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Why do MSU coaches play veterans over better players? It's insane. I think Rogers has to start going forward though. If he can get us to 21-28 this year we will have a chance to win some games and I think that will tip the scales for us the second half of the year.
I'm encouraged about the future. We are playing a lot of young players- Rogers, Marks, D. Johnson, Walley, Cross, Dolla Bill, and Cole Smith on offense. And then our defense has a lot of young players too- Pickering, Crumedy, Brule, Preston, Forbes, and Emerson. Once we add in guys like Tulu and Dean and then our recruits like Nabors, Knox, Jacobi Moore, Pounders, and hopefully win some battles for art Cooper and Callaway the future is really bright.
Losing sucks right now but I think we're pretty close to getting this turned around.
I thought Heath and Osiris played well today after I spent all last week bashing them. I hope they have turned a corner and finish the year strong.
Not a lot we can do about the o-line. Hevesy recruited most of the seniors we have been playing and now people see why I complained so hard. **** that guy. We probably need to bring in about 3-4 JUCO offensive linemen and then hold an all out competition next year.
Our defense is legit- they really only allowed the two long TD drives and I can live with that any game. Aside from the blocked punt we were solid again on special teams. Hopefully we can find a punt returner that can bust some returns like Kevin Prentiss used to.
Once Leach gets us going we're going to be really good. Our young guys are taking their lumps right now but their time is coming.
Yawn.
You can bitch all you want about Hevesy but that man made some damn good offensive lineman and put a bunch in the league. Our offensive line went to shit the day he left. You might not like the way he recruited but I can remember when he was here that lineman knocked their men off the line of scrimmage. Now they get their asses handed too them by three guys that can pin their ears back and rush.
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Originally Posted by
trojandawg
Yawn.
You can bitch all you want about Hevesy but that man made some damn good offensive lineman and put a bunch in the league. Our offensive line went to shit the day he left. You might not like the way he recruited but I can remember when he was here that lineman knocked their men off the line of scrimmage. Now they get their asses handed too them by three guys that can pin their ears back and rush.
You must have become a MSU fan in 2017 and missed 2015 and most of 2016. He's absolute trash. Gets credit for Gabe Jackson who he didn't even recruit.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
You must have become a MSU fan in 2017 and missed 2015 and most of 2016. He's absolute trash. Gets credit for Gabe Jackson who he didn't even recruit.
He is dang good coach, crap recruiter and can be a turd but can coach OL very well. We have Jenkins, Rankin, Phillips, Calhoun, Williams, Jackson and Champion in the NFL and others over the years like Day played as well.
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I think there's a shot we would've won. We gotta stay healthy tho cause I ain't seeing much depth anywhere really.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
I think there's a shot we would've won. We gotta stay healthy tho cause I ain't seeing much depth anywhere really.
I agree. We don't have any margin for error. Can't have punts blocked or turnovers. I'm thinking if Will starts it's maybe a 21-14 game. Not including our Pick-6.
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Will has the IT factor. The entire offense picked it up when he came in. Turnovers are still killer. At least we got one in our favor today.
During pregame warmups, KJ was lobbing balls and Will was firing them in. Something is wrong with KJ. I do not know what it is. The receivers seem to pep up when the gun slinger is in the game as well.
Surely leach can see this. Let?s hope he does.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Will has the IT factor. The entire offense picked it up when he came in. Turnovers are still killer. At least we got one in our favor today.
During pregame warmups, KJ was lobbing balls and Will was firing them in. Something is wrong with KJ. I do not know what it is. The receivers seem to pep up when the gun slinger is in the game as well.
Surely leach can see this. Let?s hope he does.
I've been thinking KJ may still be hurt some. At very least his injury has made him gun shy and more afraid to be him IMO.
Now some of y'all have been watching Will all thru HS and stuff, but let's not get too high on him and jinx him by saying he had the "it factor" just yet. He may have but he only played a little over a quarter yesterday I think. We are Ms State ... remember ****
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KJ had a hell of an arm week 1. I am sure having only 1.5 seconds and taking shots literally every single down, may some effect on his arm strength. I may need to go back and rewatch the Ark game and see if he took a shot to his arm or shoulder.
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I can't see it Todd, not sure Leach will ever make the adjustments in his offense and after the last three weeks Stevie Wonder can see Leach hasn't made adjustments. We had minus two yards rushing with only 217 yards of offense.
it's early but with Joe and now Leach, we are headed to the bottom "again".
Leach is 60, not sure he can recruit and with this season going so bad I'm not sure recruiting will be improved.
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We will be vastly improved if he starts Rodgers. His quicker release makes it easier on the WR and the OL.
Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
We will be vastly improved if he starts Rodgers.
Can we start getting the kid's name correct, please? It's not Rodgers with a "d" like the guy in Green Bay. It's ROGERS without a "d"... like Buck Rogers, the tv character...
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I'm at the point I hope Covid cancels the season. We might beat Vandy but we aren't winning again other than that. And I'm not even sure we'll win that one. 6 years from being #1 in the country and we're hoping to win 2 damn games.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
I'm at the point I hope Covid cancels the season. We might beat Vandy but we aren't winning again other than that. And I'm not even sure we'll win that one.
Me too. Painful to watch. I hope Costello doesn't decide to stick around another year. He came here to polish his resume and did the opposite. I don't want him to even be an option for us in 2021. As far as the OL goes....maybe we can find a couple of guys on the open market to come in and help.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
6 years from being #1 in the country and we're hoping to win 2 damn games.
Hard to take this comment seriously when you fail to mention that we're playing an all SEC schedule.
Makes you seem like you have an agenda.
I'll make a bet with you that we win more than 2 games. You in?
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Hard to take this comment seriously when you fail to mention that we're playing an all SEC schedule.
Makes you seem like you have an agenda.
I'll make a bet with you that we win more than 2 games. You in?
That a good bet right there. Looking at our schedule, 2 more wins is about all I see. 3 max unless Will lights up the scoreboard.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
That a good bet right there. Looking at our schedule, 2 more wins is about all I see. 3 max unless Will lights up the scoreboard.
Wait... 3 MORE wins? Gotta love that Miss State optimism. Lolz!
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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Wait... 3 MORE wins? Gotta love that Miss State optimism. Lolz!
I like to look at the glass as "overflowing" ****
Seriously tho ... Not sure I see any what I would call guaranteed wins left and that includes Vandy. We probably win 2 of remainder tho. Bama and Ga gonna curb stomp us.
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Our OL still stinks, but with Rogers in there, he is much more decisive and has much more zip. I agree that things may not be good now, but the future is really bright. Check this out.
QB: Rogers seems to be at minimum very capable of running the offense, and he may end up being even better than that. Then, you are bringing in Sawyer Robertson and Daniel Greek. Robertson seems to be really, really talented. Future looks secure here
RB: The two freshmen both look like they’ll be very good. Marks has more of an explosive side while D. Johnson seems to be more physical and breaks tackles. I really don’t see the Howard kid from Starkville coming in and doing much in this offense, but that’s okay with who we have. Maybe we can add one more this class. Still, future is secure here.
WR: I thought the WRs looked better this game. I feel Walley is a future star. We feel good about Tulu. Then, you are bringing in Buckhaulter, Jacobi Moore, Knox, and Nabers. You have to think at least two of that group can become really good players for you. Future is secure here.
OL: Here is the question mark. Still, talent really doesn’t seem to be the issue more than just missing guys right in front of them. Eiland got embarrassed, but he is a senior. Cross has been good, I think Dolla Bill is good in time. We have to continue to recruit well here, or at least do what Mullen did and develop. This is the only offensive spot where I’m uncertain on the future. But I think you have to try to be as bad as they are right now. Only way to go is up.
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