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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Leach has whooped better defenses consistently throughout his career than the one he is currently being defeated by. It won’t get better until he gets his guys on the OL. You can argue whether or not he should change his system before he gets the personnel to run it so we aren’t completely trash for a year or 2 but anyone that thinks Leach won’t get it turned around offensively if he is given enough time is kidding themselves.
    It's poor coaching if you're going to stick your head in the sand until everything aligns perfectly. He should be adjusting until whatever he's looking for happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    It's poor coaching if you're going to stick your head in the sand until everything aligns perfectly. He should be adjusting until whatever he's looking for happens.
    Hard to disagree with that. That is not what most people are worried about though. Most think it is never going to work because it isn’t working with offensive linemen that were largely recruited to play in a power run scheme. That line of thinking is ridiculous.

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    I realize we've got a lot of opinions here and I'm not saying any are wrong.

    However, it's important to weight your opinion with the fact that we're talking about 3 games here. Just 3 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I realize we've got a lot of opinions here and I'm not saying any are wrong.

    However, it's important to weight your opinion with the fact that we're talking about 3 games here. Just 3 games.
    3 games in YEAR 1 after we fired a coach we all thought put us back YEARS! I remember in December of last year the narrative was that we needed to pull the plug now and "just" have 2020 suck, vs keep joe and waste the first 2 years of whoever follows him. We all thought he had set the program back.

    Yet now, people think Leach will enver work. If Costello mentally grasped the system we'd be 3-1 and everyone would be happy. People are literally letting the failure of 1 transfer QB 4 games into year 1 dictate how they view Leach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Leach has whooped better defenses consistently throughout his career than the one he is currently being defeated by. It won?t get better until he gets his guys on the OL. You can argue whether or not he should change his system before he gets the personnel to run it so we aren?t completely trash for a year or 2 but anyone that thinks Leach won?t get it turned around offensively if he is given enough time is kidding themselves.
    Accept your rep sir. Outstanding post

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    3 games in YEAR 1 after we fired a coach we all thought put us back YEARS! I remember in December of last year the narrative was that we needed to pull the plug now and "just" have 2020 suck, vs keep joe and waste the first 2 years of whoever follows him. We all thought he had set the program back.

    Yet now, people think Leach will enver work. If Costello mentally grasped the system we'd be 3-1 and everyone would be happy. People are literally letting the failure of 1 transfer QB 4 games into year 1 dictate how they view Leach
    This isn't all on Costello. If you think it is you aren't watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    3 games in YEAR 1 after we fired a coach we all thought put us back YEARS! I remember in December of last year the narrative was that we needed to pull the plug now and "just" have 2020 suck, vs keep joe and waste the first 2 years of whoever follows him. We all thought he had set the program back.

    Yet now, people think Leach will enver work. If Costello mentally grasped the system we'd be 3-1 and everyone would be happy. People are literally letting the failure of 1 transfer QB 4 games into year 1 dictate how they view Leach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    This isn't all on Costello. If you think it is you aren't watching.
    The OL sucks too. But even if they stayed the same we beat Arky and Kentucky if KJ was good. Whereas I'm not sure Kj doesn't throw just as many picks if the OL could block. thus, it's QB play that's causing everyone to say Leach is a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I realize we've got a lot of opinions here and I'm not saying any are wrong.

    However, it's important to weight your opinion with the fact that we're talking about 3 games here. Just 3 games.
    Well it is 3 games of the worst MSU O in history, capped with the D that he has yet to show anything against. He gets a pass this year but it will warm heading into next year if the O doesn't show something starting next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    The OL sucks too. But even if they stayed the same we beat Arky and Kentucky if KJ was good. Whereas I'm not sure Kj doesn't throw just as many picks if the OL could block. thus, it's QB play that's causing everyone to say Leach is a failure.
    We don't beat LSU with Will. Either Leach adapts or he will fail and MSU will suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    It's poor coaching if you're going to stick your head in the sand until everything aligns perfectly. He should be adjusting until whatever he's looking for happens.
    Three games after a limited off season. I'm not saying he doesn't need to adjust and won't need to adjust, but he's trying to install his system. If he abandoned stuff that worked in the past because his guys don't pick it up immediately, he'd never get his system installed.

    I will say, just like I said after the UK game in 2018, if your system doesn't allow you to adjust to give help against a pass rusher that is too good for your tackle, then your system is not a system that will work. That said, if you have 5 guys getting beat by three, and a DL consistently runs by your center before the center even gets his hands up, I'm not sure how much you can fix with adjustments. Certainly narrow the splits at least around the center so somebody can put a hand on the guy, but if you've got 5 getting beat by 3, you have a talent problem or a basic OL skills coaching problem, and adding more blockers might give you some more time but it's going to make it much harder to get people open.

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