I'm Worried More About Leach than I am His Offense

[ShotgunDawg]

I know Leach is a good coach. He's been a good coach for 20 years.

I believe Leach's offense can work in the SEC. He's been too many places and seen to many things for it to have a fatal flaw.

What worries me most is Leach himself. Is he cut out to coach in the SEC from a work ethic and grinder standpoint.

Sure he coached under Mumme in the SEC but he was a young, hungry coach at that point and now he's a rich older guy. Money changes people and the absolute fact is that the SEC has the best coaches and players. It takes more work to be good.

Just this morning, there is a rumor that a coach was 1.5 hours late for a meeting. Not sure if that's true, but, if so, that won't cut it.

Being an hour late for press conferences is representation of your program.

I realize it's a COVID year but it's a COVID year for everyone.

Leach needs to tighten up. He's a great coach, but he won't win here while going through the motions.

[Mathiston]

Which coach? If its Arnett he was probably late because he was fielding calls from his agent asking him to name his price. If it was any body else, fire em.

[ShotgunDawg]

Which coach? If its Arnett he was probably late because he was fielding calls from his agent asking him to name his price. If it was any body else, fire em.

That or a back appointment after carrying the team for two weeks.

[Cooterpoot]

Leach has always been this way. It's part of why others wouldn't hire him. But he's still been successful.

[confucius say]

Maybe.
But counter point: see spurrier and dabo

[Johnson85]

I know Leach is a good coach. He's been a good coach for 20 years.

I believe Leach's offense can work in the SEC. He's been too many places and seen to many things for it to have a fatal flaw.

What worries me most is Leach himself. Is he cut out to coach in the SEC from a work ethic and grinder standpoint.

Sure he coached under Mumme in the SEC but he was a young, hungry coach at that point and now he's a rich older guy. Money changes people and the absolute fact is that the SEC has the best coaches and players. It takes more work to be good.

Just this morning, there is a rumor that a coach was 1.5 hours late for a meeting. Not sure if that's true, but, if so, that won't cut it.

Being an hour late for press conferences is representation of your program.

I realize it's a COVID year but it's a COVID year for everyone.

Leach needs to tighten up. He's a great coach, but he won't win here while going through the motions.

Leach isn't going to start working 80 hour weeks. I hope nobody expected that to change. And it's not a lack of work ethic. Heh does what he thinks is needed and then is done. I guess he could spend another 20 hours each week recruiting.

[maroonmania]

Leach isn't going to start working 80 hour weeks. I hope nobody expected that to change. And it's not a lack of work ethic. Heh does what he thinks is needed and then is done. I guess he could spend another 20 hours each week recruiting.

Well Mullen and crew didn't exactly stress themselves on the recruiting trail and they still were successful. As far as practice there is only so much time you can spend directly with the players so the additional extra time I guess would have to be spent on gameplanning and figuring out and evaluating strengths and weaknesses with your own team. Heck, if Mack Brown can take over at his age at North Carolina and have success then there is no reason why age should be an issue for Leach.

[BrunswickDawg]

I worry less about your list than I do the unrealistic expectations of fans, in particular the booster set. In the world of instant results, no one wants to allow for the time it takes to make a true philosophy shift. We are doing what Ga Tech did last season - it is that drastic. And no matter what, the change in schemes is so drastic that the first year is going to be tough. Add all the COVID crazy to this year and it makes it even harder. Leach will win here, like he has everywhere. But, we are going to have to adjust much more than Leach.

[DownwardDawg]

I know Leach is a good coach. He's been a good coach for 20 years.

I believe Leach's offense can work in the SEC. He's been too many places and seen to many things for it to have a fatal flaw.

What worries me most is Leach himself. Is he cut out to coach in the SEC from a work ethic and grinder standpoint.

Sure he coached under Mumme in the SEC but he was a young, hungry coach at that point and now he's a rich older guy. Money changes people and the absolute fact is that the SEC has the best coaches and players. It takes more work to be good.

Just this morning, there is a rumor that a coach was 1.5 hours late for a meeting. Not sure if that's true, but, if so, that won't cut it.

Being an hour late for press conferences is representation of your program.

I realize it's a COVID year but it's a COVID year for everyone.

Leach needs to tighten up. He's a great coach, but he won't win here while going through the motions.

Supposedly Kiffin is much like Leach in the fact he doesn't put in 100 hours a week and refuses to do so. He has fun and so does Leach.
Now I'm not saying Kiffin is a great coach, time will tell, but a lot of smart people think he is.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Leach is a known partier and enjoys a good time. We knew this when we hired him. But being late to a meeting as a coach, unless it really was done to prove a point is unacceptable. It?s unacceptable for anyone in the program. If that did indeed actually happen

[Percho]

Leach is a known partier and enjoys a good time. We knew this when we hired him. But being late to a meeting as a coach, unless it really was done to prove a point is unacceptable. It?s unacceptable for anyone in the program. If that did indeed actually happen

I bet one of the other coaches, forgot to wake him.

[Todd4State]

Leach is eccentric so this doesn't surprise me. I agree that he should be on time for meetings though.

[bluelightstar]

https://www.si.com/college/2020/09/2...ch-kj-costello

There?s an interesting quote in there about SEC coaches working long hours and how Leach doesn?t. I get that Leach has his systems and believes in reps and execution, but if other coaches are putting in 8 more hours a day scouting you, I?m skeptical they won?t figure something out. It?s the nature of the beast down here ? Oregon State?s coaches aren?t putting in 20 hour weeks.

[Cooterpoot]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

This, I don't know why folks have trouble understanding this.

[msbulldog]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

Agree.

[HoopsDawg]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

20 yards rushing vs a Prevent defense on the heels of the Arkansas debacle. Some of the worst coaching I've ever seen. We have some talent on offense.

[Jarius]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

People expected a quarterback that was projected to be a top 2 round pick to come in here and look competent with a coach that has installed his offense pretty easily year one everywhere he has been. The problems you are talking about talent wise we?re supposedly on the defense, which is playing lights out. If you do not understand why people are up in arms about how bad we look offensively then I do not know what to tell you. He did not inherent a lack of talent on the Ol and that is very concerning. He inherited an all sec running back and that is a problem. He brought in his own quarterback and that is a problem. Ole Miss went from running the ball 65 % of the time last year to a complete offensive identity switch and they just scored 45 points on Alabama. We have issues much bigger than talent.

[FISHDAWG]

I'm surprised at the number of people that thought this team was some loaded team. People can keep saying "this is the most talented team Leach has ever had" but it's not true. This bunch was a train wreck last year. It's very young in spots and is void of talent in others.
And moving to a totally new offensive identity is a massive undertaking considering what we ran previously.
Who knows it we're successful. But people screaming to go back to a run based offense because of two bad games are the reason our program struggles to advance.

what are we supposed to think when it's 8 bad games instead of 2 .....OK, so we don't yet have the players to implement his offense with precision and efficiency ... Do we not adapt until we do ? Where are the contingency plans if something doesn't work ? Why do we keep running something that doesn't work ? Where is the imagination ? There are a lot of first downs out there that a competent running play would convert - how long are we supposed to wait when what we see in front of us is absolutely adamant with no room for suggestion or improvement ? ..... I get the recruiting his type of players will eventually improve his offense but what I don't get is him refusing to try something different for the sake of winning with what he currently has

[TaleofTwoDogs]

^^THIS^

If you can't adapt, you are doomed to failure. For example, put Schrader in the backfield with Rogers or KJ and run a play designed for that skill set. In other words, do something that will take advantage of what the defense gives you. Not sure how this team & staff can go from the top of the world to the bottom of the pit in 2 weeks is unbelievable. Big, big head scratcher.