Not trying to pump sunshine...

[HailState86]

BUT (y?all knew there had to be a ?but?), we knew this season would most likely be painful. Maybe some of the issues/malcontents took a bit to manifest. My longing Bulldog heart wants to believe it?s a painful step in the right direction.

[chef dixon]

No reason to play KJ anymore. Get Rogers or even Shrader in and let's get to work. We need some threat of mobility at QB even if it's just within the pocket.

[Joebob]

No reason to play KJ anymore. Get Rogers or even Shrader in and let's get to work. We need some threat of mobility at QB even if it's just within the pocket.

And this might just be Leach's toughest predicament. K.J. Has made so many bad decisions the last three weeks that I just can't see him being the guy anymore. But everybody else is younger with even less experience in this offense. If we can't find a way to bring some semblance of a running game into the offense, then I think this is going to be a very long year.

[DovaDawg]

No reason to play KJ anymore. Get Rogers or even Shrader in and let's get to work. We need some threat of mobility at QB even if it's just within the pocket.

I said this same thing this morning. If the Air Raid depends on the QB being comfortable in the system, no sense in WR and GS not taking the rest of the snaps for the season.

[Cooterpoot]

Before the malcontent comment, we're were going to lose between 5-10 players after the season. I expect we could see 10+ now. You can forget about a couple recruits too.
Everyone is just sick of this shitty program. Dan started the downward spiral staying longer than he wanted, Joe completely destroyed our work ethic and coddled kids. The kids are sick of losing like we are. And we are right back where we were with Moorhead and his transfer QB problems. Leach is going to have a hard time. Toughest job with the most pressure he's ever had. Toughest schedule he's ever had. I'm going to just say screw it and try to keep my mouth shut until after the season and signing day. All of us raising hell isnt going to help a damn thing. It is what it is.

[basedog]

Before the malcontent comment, we're were going to lose between 5-10 players after the season. I expect we could see 10+ now. You can forget about a couple recruits too.
Everyone is just sick of this shitty program. Dan started the downward spiral staying longer than he wanted, Joe completely destroyed our work ethic and coddled kids. The kids are sick of losing like we are. And we are right back where we were with Moorhead and his transfer QB problems. Leach is going to have a hard time. Toughest job with the most pressure he's ever had. Toughest schedule he's ever had. I'm going to just say screw it and try to keep my mouth shut until after the season and signing day. All of us raising hell isnt going to help a damn thing. It is what it is.

Mississippi State Bulldogs, we are known for the "graveyard of football coaches". Say it ain't so.

[Bdawg]

Before the malcontent comment, we're were going to lose between 5-10 players after the season. I expect we could see 10+ now. You can forget about a couple recruits too.
Everyone is just sick of this shitty program. Dan started the downward spiral staying longer than he wanted, Joe completely destroyed our work ethic and coddled kids. The kids are sick of losing like we are. And we are right back where we were with Moorhead and his transfer QB problems. Leach is going to have a hard time. Toughest job with the most pressure he's ever had. Toughest schedule he's ever had. I'm going to just say screw it and try to keep my mouth shut until after the season and signing day. All of us raising hell isnt going to help a damn thing. It is what it is.

Well if we had this many bad eggs as you say, then we weren't winning shi* anyway this year. Hope he cleans house and gets rid of anything that doesn't want to work or be coddled(screw you joe for this culture). He better bring in some good replacements is all I can say.

[msbulldog]

Definitely a change in tone Coot and I like it! Rep given!

[Cooterpoot]

Well if we had this many bad eggs as you say, then we weren't winning shi* anyway this year. Hope he cleans house and gets rid of anything that doesn't want to work or be coddled(screw you joe for this culture). He better bring in some good replacements is all I can say.

I don't think we have many bad eggs. Several players were leaving due to playing time. The bad eggs are mostly older players and honestly, it's more frustration than that they're bad eggs. But some of them can't help themselves but say and do things that can't be allowed. A coach can't put up with certain things.

[IMissJack]

We are at the bottom because Cohen decided to completely change our image from run based/tough defense to high pass offense. Nevermind the most successful years we ever had were the last 10 years and were based on the opposite. He has successfully destroyed any goodwill that Mullen has developed for us. Stick to baseball.

[bluelightstar]

We are at the bottom because Cohen decided to completely change our image from run based/tough defense to high pass offense. Nevermind the most successful years we ever had were the last 10 years and were based on the opposite. He has successfully destroyed any goodwill that Mullen has developed for us. Stick to baseball.

It makes no 17ing sense to do a complete philosophy change coming off the success of the Mullen years. We should?ve continued with a run-based spread offense, and Cohen had a chance to fix it after his Moorhead hire and doubled down!

[defiantdog]

Those who are not willing to change, will always be left behind..... Yes..... Maybe changing to a pass heavy offense will work, but Leach may need to change as well to get acclimated to the SEC

[msbulldog]

Those who are not willing to change, will always be left behind..... Yes..... Maybe changing to a pass heavy offense will work, but Leach may need to change as well to get acclimated to the SEC

A wise man once told me if you ain't changing you're backing up.

[R2Dawg]

Those who are not willing to change, will always be left behind..... Yes..... Maybe changing to a pass heavy offense will work, but Leach may need to change as well to get acclimated to the SEC

We did change we went spread and run pass options like the masses and we've had the players to do it. Going air raid is a radical move and one that potentially is like blowing up the program to rebuild from the beginning. This was a big, big risk. Looks bad right now, jury still out, we'll see.

We may be seeing how bad Joe was.

[Mobile Bay]

We are at the bottom because Cohen decided to completely change our image from run based/tough defense to high pass offense. Nevermind the most successful years we ever had were the last 10 years and were based on the opposite. He has successfully destroyed any goodwill that Mullen has developed for us. Stick to baseball.

Something new was needed. The game has changed.

Lets look in the old trophy case and see how the old way has worked. That 1998 second place in the SEC trophy is getting mighty dusty.

[Cooterpoot]

We are at the bottom because Cohen decided to completely change our image from run based/tough defense to high pass offense. Nevermind the most successful years we ever had were the last 10 years and were based on the opposite. He has successfully destroyed any goodwill that Mullen has developed for us. Stick to baseball.

Disagree. Football has evolved to a point where you cant just play power football.

[Dawgfan77]

Kenum has no business promoting Cohen to AD. He simply was not a good hire. Cohen reached on SloMo and then realized that and went for the pirate. We are in this place not because of a coaching hire rather an AD hire. We had so much momentum and today we are headed for Arkansas level. I don't think leach will stick around. He may but I wouldn't doubt he takes his $$$ and goes to Key West. The landscape has changed and he doesn't strike me as a fan of what's going on. From twitter to PCs... we could be hiring a coach by EOY, or he may stick it out. Regardless JC has to go

[HailStateSZN19]

I’m curious as to who all these “malcontents” are that Leach referenced in the post game PC as people who they need to possibly purge from the program.

We can’t score a damn TD for nothing on offense and we’re about to get rid of some people? Unless it’s guys who are just straight up not doing anything the coaches are telling them to do, why would we purge anybody in the middle of the season?

[msbulldog]

I?m curious as to who all these ?malcontents? are that Leach referenced in the post game PC as people who they need to possibly purge from the program.

We can?t score a damn TD for nothing on offense and we?re about to get rid of some people? Unless it?s guys who are just straight up not doing anything the coaches are telling them to do, why would we purge anybody in the middle of the season?

Exorcize cancers!

[Cooterpoot]

Leach isn't quitting. Damn, some of you guys are crazy as 17. I'm not Cohen fan, but he's not going anywhere either. Coaches at MSU should NEVER be promoted to AD. Not a single damn one.