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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Defense is better than expected but we haven't faced a good team yet.
    Offense ain’t the problem for LSU. That’s easy to see. Is it anywhere close to last year? No but their offense hasn’t been the problem.

    And not talking directly to you because you just said that our defense is better than expected, but if our defense sucked like most thought it would, then why would it matter if we’ve played anyone really good yet? If they sucked, LSU woulda put up more than 27 on them and UPig woulda scored more than 14. But our so-far solid defense held them to those #’s. If they sucked, they woulda given up 30+ to each of those teams.
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    No reason to apologize or feel bad about beating a good team OR a team we were "supposed to" beat on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Well so far that haven't given up over 30 once, so you're running out of time.
    We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

    http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/...09/sort01.html
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    LSU wasn't a great win, but outside of beating Bama or UGA, which SEC teams would be good wins this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

    http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/...09/sort01.html
    Our defense has given up 14 and 24 points. The PPG may well end up over 30 but it's misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We're at 27.5 right now and we have some good offenses coming.

    http://cfbstats.com/2020/leader/911/...09/sort01.html
    That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

    27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

    Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.
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    So much is up in the air this season. Bama is the only sure thing...again

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

    27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

    Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.
    24 to LSU. They kicked a field goal after we gave them the ball on about the 15 yard line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

    27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

    Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.
    Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

    https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    That’s factoring in the 2 pick 6’s. Nice try. The defense is giving up 20.5 PPG.

    27 vs LSU + 14 vs UPig = 20.5 PPG which is 19th in the country before this weekend.

    Also 19th in yards allowed per game at around 350 ypg.
    Yeah the 2 pick 6s ain't on the defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    24 to LSU. They kicked a field goal after we gave them the ball on about the 15 yard line.
    Yeah that’s fair, and even more so helps my point. So we’re at 19 PPG on defense.

    If they sucked as bad as C34 and others preached they would, they’d still be giving up 30+ PPG and a hell of a lot more yards than 350 YPG.

    Lot of ball left to play but the reason I’m going at him on this is because he preaches his opinions like their facts and when he’s wrong, he dodges it and won’t take responsibility for a crappy take. If we wind up sucking and these first couple games have been a mirage, I’ll admit I was wrong. C34 just makes excuses and creates threads like this claiming he’s right on something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

    https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
    You believe whatever you want to C34. That’s the shittiest excuse to back up your blatantly wrong take I’ve ever seen. But I expect nothing less from you lol. Defense has given up 24 and 14 points. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah the 2 pick 6s ain't on the defense
    Of course it is of it helps the great football god’s (C34) narrative. Remember, he knows everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    Offense ain?t the problem for LSU. That?s easy to see. Is it anywhere close to last year? No but their offense hasn?t been the problem.

    And not talking directly to you because you just said that our defense is better than expected, but if our defense sucked like most thought it would, then why would it matter if we?ve played anyone really good yet? If they sucked, LSU woulda put up more than 27 on them and UPig woulda scored more than 14. But our so-far solid defense held them to those #?s. If they sucked, they woulda given up 30+ to each of those teams.
    Who has LSU played? State, Vandy, & MO. None of which are defensive juggernauts. LSU looks bad on both sides of the ball to me. Again, defense is better than I expected regardless, but I'm not sure how good yet.
    Last edited by Cooterpoot; 10-10-2020 at 03:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

    https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
    Lol. No dude. You don't get that one.

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    AS of now the win at LSU doesn't look very good and the loss to Bacon U still looks bad. But I am just glad to have Football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

    https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
    Ok, after this statement you should change your username to Assistant Coach34

    That’s some dumb ass reasoning right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats not how it works. We give up 27.5 per game. Offense becomes the D on a turnover.

    https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/change_sport_year_div
    Your attempt to move the goalposts to fit your narrative is hilarious. If your argument had been that our defense will be good coming into the season, you would never count the pick 6s.

    Of course the official record books say that we are giving up 27.5 PPG. But anyone with any shred of common sense knows that our actual DEFENSE is only giving up 20.5 PPG.

    You also said that Leach?s offense can work against zone coverage, but it would never work against SEC man to man defenses because we wouldn?t have time to get the passes off. That was laughably wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Cant replace that many starters and keep rolling.
    Is this your way of saying that you were wrong about LSU before the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Ok, after this statement you should change your username to Assistant Coach34

    That’s some dumb ass reasoning right there.
    C34 in this thread, lol.


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