Sunday Morning QB- Bacon Snaps 20 Game Losing Streak Edition

[Coach34]

1. I'd like to be the first to welcome many of you back to reality, but our team and your OM friends have already done that for most of you.

2. When I talked repeatedly about the Leach experiment and if it would work in the SEC, I wasnt just pulling a statement out of my ass. This is the best league in America with the best athletes. Great coaches as well. People that get open in the Pac 12 and Big Ten dont get as open in the SEC. Same with the Big 12. We have now seen 2 extremes vs Leach- M2M Blitz constantly and Rush 3 drop 8 zone. Coaches adjust. Coaches copycat others. Word spreads quickly today.

3. UPig's rush 3 drop 8 plan was copycatted from Washington. Thats the way they played against Leach every year after he beat them in his 1st year in Pullman. After Washington switched to the Rush 3 Drop 8 style against Leach- he never scored 20 against them again. 17, 13, 10, 14, 15, 13 the last 6 games. We are about to see a whole lot of it the rest of this season from teams that have better defenses than the Pigs. All UPig did all night was move their front from playing the ends wide to sliding them inside into a Tite front (404). Thats it. It wasnt rocket surgery- it was "I dare you to throw it 60 times tonight". Well, we did.

4. Hill getting hurt obviously played a major factor. He took a shot to the head and then landed hard on his head. We got away with the fumble there. It looked like he may have even been knocked out for a second. I'm sure he has to go thru concussion protocol but he didnt look bad when they showed him in the 2nd half. Not having him running the ball vs that D certainly helped UPig continue to stay in it. The other guys played ok and made some good cuts- but they arent Hill. Is Witherspoon still on the roster? He looked good for a freshman last year. Amazing he cant even get a carry this year

5. I was surprised our OL didnt take over in the 2nd half. We started being patient and ran the ball some in the 2nd Q and they were hammering their DL. Looked like we would wear them down but never did. They outplayed us in the 2nd half and we didnt even average 4 ypc. Only 1 sack in 61 pass attempts is good- but considering they only rushed 3- it's expected.

6. On the Pick 6- the WR turned his head just as KJ threw the ball, I guess to check where he was on the field. He wasnt even looking and that led to the easy pick- very similar to Fitz's 1st pick at LSU in 2018. Helluva catch by Payton on the TD. 18 catches by the RB's is too many for this offense. It means we are having to check down way too often.

7. Just as many thought, our D has been pretty good against the run. They got us early with some power read, but we adjusted. Another really good goalline stand against their goalline offense. We are doing a good job so far of confusing OL's. We slanted the DL to the short side of the field and looped a LB from the middle around the edge for a sack last night. Usually takes too long for that to work- but it worked last night. UPig made us look bad on a couple of drives but overall a solid performance on D. Franks was 20/28 though and we didnt force any turnovers. The two blown coverages on the fake screens were big. But the bottom line is the D played well enough to win

8. People got mad at me last week for saying we need to run it more. Now you all have seen why. Leach is very smart and smarter than me. But I know you have to run vs a 5 man box. You have to. There just arent that many throwing windows vs an SEC defense dropping 8. Hell, we even got a 4 man box some. We didnt play a bigtime D last night folks. That was an average SEC D. We got some folks coming up on the schedule with much better DL's than UPig. Now that the blueprint has made it's way to the SEC- I'm curious to see how many copycat DC's there are. Some guys are hardheaded like Pellini and wont change because "this is what we do" (much like Leach). But some DC's are coaching whores and will do whatever it takes.

HailState

[WyldStallyns]

We win if Kylin plays the whole game. Leach didn't want to put the game in the hands of Marks & Johnson. He put it in KJ's hands and he killed us. Simple as that.

[WinningIsRelentless]

We don?t need to take another transfer at the qb position. The toughness and speed in the SEC takes time to learn and these guys coming from outside the league don?t believe it till its to late.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

We don?t need to take another transfer at the qb position. The toughness and speed in the SEC takes time to learn and these guys coming from outside the league don?t believe it till its to late.

I don't think we need to take anymore transfers period. How many of those have worked out so far? The only one that seems to be doing well off the top of my head is Shavers. Last year Stevens and Zuber didn't do anything. Then this year Lashley won't play a snap, Cole Smith still looks really iffy at center, Costello seems to not be able to take a hit, etc.

Why not just let who we have take the reps and develop, can't be any worse

Edit: I forgot to add the kicker Ruiz, but the jury is out on him until Leach finally decides to use the damn kicker!

[ShotgunDawg]

I guess Oregon didn't copy Washington's defense*

It'll be fine. Leach will figure it out.

Growing pains. We just started practice a month and half ago with a new scheme and QB

Have perspective

[TrapGame]

I guess Oregon didn't copy Washington's defense*

It'll be fine. Leach will figure it out.

Growing pains. We just started practice a month and half ago with a new scheme and QB

Have perspective

And not having your best RB for most of the game didn't help at all.

[Coach34]

I guess Oregon didn't copy Washington's defense*

It'll be fine. Leach will figure it out.

Growing pains. We just started practice a month and half ago with a new scheme and QB

Have perspective

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

[ShotgunDawg]

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

Agree with all you say here.

But it's not indicative of our long term success or failure.

[maroonmania]

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

We ran it plenty last night. We just weren't very effective running when we did. Can't really remember more than maybe one run over 10 yards all night for us. Our main problem right now is that we can't drive the field at 5 yards per clip without screwing up through turnover, penalty, errant throws, etc. Arkansas was betting on that last night and won the bet.

[SheltonChoked]

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

I'm sure your teams never overlook and opponent.

Just as shocked you didn't have an excuse to post this late in the afternoon like last week.

[Coach34]

I'm sure your teams never overlook and opponent.

Just as shocked you didn't have an excuse to post this late in the afternoon like last week.

As coaches we always fight that battle. What I do with my guys that play in the Fun-N-Gun- is challenge them by talking about "stat games". We work to accomplish goals every Friday no matter who the opponent is- 40 points, 400 yards, 0 turnovers, etc. It's amazing to see kids work in a week they know they are playing an inferior opponent when you talk to them about being a 100 yard WR, 150 yard rusher, 250 yard passer, etc. Edited to add- it's ridiculous that you think we were looking past UPig because we wanted Kentucky so bad. We didnt overlook them- we got outcoached and outplayed.

In what world is 1:15pm "late afternoon"? I posted last week about 2 hours after I woke up, same today

[SheltonChoked]

As coaches we always fight that battle. What I do with my guys that play in the Fun-N-Gun- is challenge them by talking about "stat games". We work to accomplish goals every Friday no matter who the opponent is- 40 points, 400 yards, 0 turnovers, etc. It's amazing to see kids work in a week they know they are playing an inferior opponent when you talk to them about being a 100 yard WR, 150 yard rusher, 250 yard passer, etc. Edited to add- it's ridiculous that you think we were looking past UPig because we wanted Kentucky so bad. We didnt overlook them- we got outcoached and outplayed.

In what world is 1:15pm "late afternoon"? I posted last week about 2 hours after I woke up, same today

I didn't say we "looked past Ark to Kentucky" you illiterate hillbilly. I said we overlooked them. As in we thought we could sleepwalk through an SEC game and win.

We got "out coached and outplayed" because KJ read too much of his own press, after he set the SEC record in his first SEC game. He thought it was always going to be easy.

But you twist it into whatever you have to.

[Hot Rock]

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

I think I know why so many coaches can't fathom this offense working. It's because they have no clue how to coach this offense to be successful themselves. Therefore, no one can do it.

It's the practice and repetitions and perfect execution that makes this offense click and without near flawless execution this offense can fail even against bad teams.

If you think this past week is troubling so soon in the process then you probably won't have the stomach to see it through or give Leech the support he needs to make it happen.

[msstate7]

And not having your best RB for most of the game didn't help at all.

Ark didn't either

[TrapGame]

Ark didn't either

Ours was better.

[KOdawg1]

Ours was better.

Debatable

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Couple points:

on 2) and 3), if coaches copy what works and Washington's 3-8 D worked, why did Leaches' O work more often than not over 18 seasons? Either people didn't copy it, or it's hard to copy. I won't lie and say I've seen a bunch of WSU football but I feel confident Leach faced Zone more than M2M. Why some zones work and some don't is what I want to know.

5) is a big key for me. Our OL HAS to be able to move dudes out of the way for this to ever work. Not bulldoze people, but allow for 5 yard 1st down runs vs 5 men boxes is perfectly reasonable to expect of an OL with this much talent and experience

7) ultimately the D allowed 275 yards and 14 points. That's pretty good, even though our opening gameplan was HORRIBLE, it took till the 3rd quarter to adjust, the secondary didn't know their assignments, and tackling was poor. DL got after it and we played hard. Aside from Bama and OM, are there really any "good" O's on the schedule? Auburn and A&M have bad QBs and need to run to be effective, which plays into our hands. Mizzou and Vandy are just bad. UGA may not have a great O but they have a ton of talent and will completely shut down our O so that doesn't matter. I'd say Bama and OM are the only games I really feel like we will definitely get torched

I'm shocked there is no 9) about Costello having issues, or the O not having enough reps to click vs zone. All you said about the O was we need to run it better, but I felt we learned a ton about KJ's flaws and the WRs not knowing how to attack a zone

[Commercecomet24]

One correction the Defense did force 2 turnovers, 2 fumble recoveries

[HoopsDawg]

I have plenty of perspective. We lost to a team that is not very good. A team that lost 4 starters last night during our game. Those are facts. Losing to a bad team playing a prevent defense all night is troubling.

Why couldn't we run the ball? Is it bc every run is either a draw (and they weren't blitzing) or an inside zone? Could we not get someone to put a hat on bumper pool.

[TNDawg35]

So now all of a sudden you were right all along... man 17 that shit and take it back to your high school shit. We lost cause we played like total shit. Our defense was damn good and did everything to win the game. The O didn’t. The scheme was there to make plays and Costello played about as bad as you could. He damn near singlehandedly cost is the game...

Oh and since you know every 17in thing, I guess you already know Hill got his ass benched last night for running his damn mouth to a coach after his concussion proto. THAT is the reason he didn’t come back...

Bit like I said, you already knew that...***