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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Talent can close the so called experience gap quickly.
    I agree. Of course you prefer both but one or the other is acceptable. I think sometimes having just experience with average talent will still lead to average results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.
    A big key to next year'd defense will be Demonte Russell's health.

    He's got that classic pass rusher frame & was on pace to make a big jump this year before the car wreck. Hopefully he can get healthy, return, & reach his ceiling
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    A big key to next year'd defense will be Demonte Russell's health.

    He's got that classic pass rusher frame & was on pace to make a big jump this year before the car wreck. Hopefully he can get healthy, return, & reach his ceiling
    Hopefully the Co-lin DL transfer can make a difference this year. By game 3 I expect that light bulb to come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.
    Not only that but how many games did we even get out of our top 3 round picks last year? We got 4 games from Gay and not many more from Dantzler due to injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Not only that but how many games did we even get out of our top 3 round picks last year? We got 4 games from Gay and not many more from Dantzler due to injuries.
    Dantzler made a lot of business decisions last year.

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    I'm going to say 29 per game.

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    No draft boards had Sweat on it when he first arrived on campus...
    Jordan Davis is a NFL talent.. let’s see how he pans out

    Pickering and Crumedy both should play on Sundays
    Emerson is ahead of Dantzler at this point In Their careers

    Errol is a solid SEC LB.. and could for sure make a roster .

    Spencer played as a true freshman on the Simmons and Sweat teams. Injuries have hurt him big time. Hopefully the kid has a injury free season. We for sure need him

    Murphy with a full season and starting role could have a big year and set himself up nicely for his Sr Season

    And if Tre Lawson can get healthy he will be a factor this season

    There isnt a Simmons on the roster , but again it’s not a bunch of walk ons and 2 stars ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    No draft boards had Sweat on it when he first arrived on campus...
    Jordan Davis is a NFL talent.. let?s see how he pans out

    Pickering and Crumedy both should play on Sundays
    Emerson is ahead of Dantzler at this point In Their careers

    Errol is a solid SEC LB.. and could for sure make a roster .

    Spencer played as a true freshman on the Simmons and Sweat teams. Injuries have hurt him big time. Hopefully the kid has a injury free season. We for sure need him

    Murphy with a full season and starting role could have a big year and set himself up nicely for his Sr Season

    And if Tre Lawson can get healthy he will be a factor this season

    There isnt a Simmons on the roster , but again it?s not a bunch of walk ons and 2 stars ..
    These are great points and it shows that any lumps the defense takes this season should stem from inexperience and the new system more than on-paper talent. We've got around 22 dudes on defense who were consensus high three-star or higher prospects (87+ for the 247Sports nerds) with multiple SEC and Power 5 offers out of high school. (And 8 of those were legit blue chippers.) And that doesn't even include dudes like Odom, Lawson, and Emerson who were mid-three-star guys.

    So I think we've got the dudes. It's just that lots of them haven't played much for us before. The rub's going to be how much the coaching staff can get out of such an inexperienced group. Recent history among teams with similarly inexperienced units says it's going going to be a struggle. But who knows.

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    The thing is that we cannot absorb any injuries in the secondary and we need our safeties just to play solid.

    I would guess we're going to put Emerson on an island and try to help everyone else. I tend to agree that we're not going to be good but we're not going to be historically bad either unless 2-3 key guys go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    The thing is that we cannot absorb any injuries in the secondary and we need our safeties just to play solid.

    I would guess we're going to put Emerson on an island and try to help everyone else. I tend to agree that we're not going to be good but we're not going to be historically bad either unless 2-3 key guys go down.
    I would put Emerson on LSU's 2nd best WR 1 on 1 & then double LSU's best WR
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I would put Emerson on LSU's 2nd best WR 1 on 1 & then double LSU's best WR
    Emerson on Marshall Jr. Best on best and try to not let him beat you by himself.

    Forbes on McMath. I'd be intrigued to see Forbes' length against McMath's length.

    Peters/Murphy on Boutte. Idk who will be in coverage more between Peters and Murphy but Boutte can fly so whoever it is, they better bring they're track shoes guarding Boutte.

    Brule on Gilbert. I think with Brule's size, speed, and athleticism he's our best shot at keeping Gilbert in check somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    Emerson on Marshall Jr. Best on best and try to not let him beat you by himself.

    Forbes on McMath. I'd be intrigued to see Forbes' length against McMath's length.

    Peters/Murphy on Boutte. Idk who will be in coverage more between Peters and Murphy but Boutte can fly so whoever it is, they better bring they're track shoes guarding Boutte.

    Brule on Gilbert. I think with Brule's size, speed, and athleticism he's our best shot at keeping Gilbert in check somewhat.
    Those are scary matchups outside of Emerson. McMath has 50 lbs in Forbes and is just as fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    Those are scary matchups outside of Emerson. McMath has 50 lbs in Forbes and is just as fast.
    I think Peters and Murphy can keep Boutte in check. He's a player but he's a freshman playing in his first SEC game. I'll take Murphy and Peters' experience.

    Brule on Gilbert could be a heck of a matchup but could be a matchup that plays a huge part in determining the outcome because LSU fans have raved and raved about this kid in camp saying he's been unguardable.

    Forbes/Furdge on McMath is scary. McMath doesn't have a ton of experience but he's talented and more experienced than Furdge or Forbes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    You’re gonna be in for a pleasant surprise. See how easy that is?

    But I’m sure when we are inside the Top 10 in the SEC on defense, you’ll find a way to bitch and complain and move the goal posts somehow saying it still wasn’t good enough when you’re acting like we’re about to be all-time bad. But I know your schtick, your Mr Pessimism who tries to play it off as “just being real”. We’re not gonna be good on defense by any means but we will be better than Arkansas, OM, Vandy, and Mizzou and will be inside the Top 10 in the SEC. We’re not completely void of talent. We’ve got some pieces to work with.
    I think 10th ahead of those 4 teams you mention is a decent bet. Or maybe South Carolina behind us and Missouri one spot ahead. Either way, 9th or 10th feels about right. Injuries/COVID to Erroll and Emerson and we could be last. I think the margin is that close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg View Post
    I think 10th ahead of those 4 teams you mention is a decent bet. Or maybe South Carolina behind us and Missouri one spot ahead. Either way, 9th or 10th feels about right. Injuries/COVID to Erroll and Emerson and we could be last. I think the margin is that close.
    That's fair but we can't predict injuries or COVID issues. I'm going off what we have on paper right now. If we get decimated anywhere by injuries or COVID, absolutely we could finish around last but that's trying to predict something that is unpredictable.

    But as long as we stay healthy and don't have a COVID breakout, my prediction is about 9th in the SEC, ahead of Vandy, Mizzou, OM, Arky, and USC.

    Bama, UGA, LSU, Auburn, UK, Florida, and Tennessee with Pruitt as the HC will all be ahead of us for sure. I don't know what to make of A&M with their opt-outs because they had a couple key DB's opt out I believe. I'll say they still are most likely to finish ahead of us.
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    If Brennan has time and can deliver the ball in the general area of his WRs, we're gonna be torched. I might would just send a bunch of blitzes, and hope you get there... don't think Brennan can use his legs like burrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If Brennan has time and can deliver the ball in the general area of his WRs, we're gonna be torched. I might would just send a bunch of blitzes, and hope you get there... don't think Brennan can use his legs like burrow
    Brennan isn't qualified to hold Joe Burrow's jock. The shoes he's filling are 50 gallon barrels to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If Brennan has time and can deliver the ball in the general area of his WRs, we're gonna be torched. I might would just send a bunch of blitzes, and hope you get there... don't think Brennan can use his legs like burrow
    Yeah. We're going to have to be aggressive to see if we can force mistakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Brennan isn't qualified to hold Joe Burrow's jock. The shoes he's filling are 50 gallon barrels to him.
    I certainly don't think he is. To be fair though, burrow '18 wasn't very good, and he turned out to be one of the best I've ever saw play in 1 season. For this reason, I'm holding off on judgement of Brennan

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I certainly don't think he is. To be fair though, burrow '18 wasn't very good, and he turned out to be one of the best I've ever saw play in 1 season. For this reason, I'm holding off on judgement of Brennan
    If Joe Brady was still at LSU I'd be more worried.

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