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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I dont see any way we give up less than 30 PPG
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
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    We will be shitty on D because we lack talent, experience, and physicality. Our Secondary will be bad and we cant help them because we lack a pass rush. We have zero depth- which will really take it's toll early due to the heat and later because of injuries. We wont finish inside the top 10 of the SEC on D- in spite of being coached well.
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    Whats changed on our D now compared to the last few years? Not 1 person on our D this season is projected to be a top 3 round pick. We have had at least 1 projected top 3 round pick on our D for the last 10 years. But not this year. It's a talent problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We will be shitty on D because we lack talent, experience, and physicality. Our Secondary will be bad and we cant help them because we lack a pass rush. We have zero depth- which will really take it's toll early due to the heat and later because of injuries. We wont finish inside the top 10 of the SEC on D- in spite of being coached well.
    I’ll bet you we DO finish inside the Top 10 in the SEC.

    We will be better defensively than Arky, OM, Vandy, and Mizzou for sure. We might be 8th or 9th but it’ll be inside the top 10.
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    I'm going to say 29 per game.

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    You probably have outliers with Alabama and Vanderbilt. Hopefully moreso Alabama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Whats changed on our D now compared to the last few years? Not 1 person on our D this season is projected to be a top 3 round pick. We have had at least 1 projected top 3 round pick on our D for the last 10 years. But not this year. It's a talent problem
    After putting so many great players in the league, it's unreal to me that we have a recruiting and talent problem on defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We will be shitty on D because we lack talent, experience, and physicality. Our Secondary will be bad and we cant help them because we lack a pass rush. We have zero depth- which will really take it's toll early due to the heat and later because of injuries. We wont finish inside the top 10 of the SEC on D- in spite of being coached well.
    I could care less as long as we score more than the other guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Whats changed on our D now compared to the last few years? Not 1 person on our D this season is projected to be a top 3 round pick. We have had at least 1 projected top 3 round pick on our D for the last 10 years. But not this year. It's a talent problem
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.
    Yeah the problem is experience not talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    Yeah the problem is experience not talent.
    Talent can close the so called experience gap quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.
    A big key to next year'd defense will be Demonte Russell's health.

    He's got that classic pass rusher frame & was on pace to make a big jump this year before the car wreck. Hopefully he can get healthy, return, & reach his ceiling
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    A big key to next year'd defense will be Demonte Russell's health.

    He's got that classic pass rusher frame & was on pace to make a big jump this year before the car wreck. Hopefully he can get healthy, return, & reach his ceiling
    Hopefully the Co-lin DL transfer can make a difference this year. By game 3 I expect that light bulb to come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    I’ll bet you we DO finish inside the Top 10 in the SEC.

    We will be better defensively than Arky, OM, Vandy, and Mizzou for sure. We might be 8th or 9th but it’ll be inside the top 10.
    Vandy is a safe bet, but i wouldn't bet on being better than the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    We will definitely have a top 3 round pick from this defense. Emerson, Crumedy, Pickering, Brule, Purvis, Forbes,, heck ill even say Peters if he keeps it up.
    Not only that but how many games did we even get out of our top 3 round picks last year? We got 4 games from Gay and not many more from Dantzler due to injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Vandy is a safe bet, but i wouldn't bet on being better than the rest.
    We will be better than Vandy, Arkansas, and Ole Miss on defense 100%. Those 3 teams are going to be really really bad defensively. Missouri has a really good DC but they are also at the end of a talent cycle. That could go either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Not only that but how many games did we even get out of our top 3 round picks last year? We got 4 games from Gay and not many more from Dantzler due to injuries.
    Dantzler made a lot of business decisions last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Talent can close the so called experience gap quickly.
    I agree. Of course you prefer both but one or the other is acceptable. I think sometimes having just experience with average talent will still lead to average results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    I’ll bet you we DO finish inside the Top 10 in the SEC.

    We will be better defensively than Arky, OM, Vandy, and Mizzou for sure. We might be 8th or 9th but it’ll be inside the top 10.
    You gonna be in for a rude awakening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    You gonna be in for a rude awakening.
    If we don’t have a better defense than those 4 teams then whoever is telling you our DC is good but needs more talent doesn’t know what they are talking about because we have recruited at a much higher level than any of those 4 teams. You may be right. We may have the worst defense in the conference.....but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. We aren’t that void of talent. Having worse defenses than any of Vandy, Ole Miss, or Arkansas this year would mean we need to fire the defensive coordinator.
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