Shrader Playing Some WR

[ShotgunDawg]

He?s about 6?5? 220 lbs, can run, & a tough runner.

Kind of Joe Juravicious like.

Not sure if he can catch, but I love the competitiveness, willingness to adapt, & the type of teammate this says he may be due to being willing to help the team in anyway possible.

Not sure if it will work out, but I love the idea

[NWADAWG]

He?s about 6?5? 220 lbs, can run, & a tough runner.

Kind of Joe Juravicious like.

Not sure if he can catch, but I love the competitiveness, willingness to adapt, & the type of teammate this says he may be due to being willing to help the team in anyway possible.

Not sure if it will work out, but I love the idea

I would think that learning the routes/air raid as a receiver, especially if he learns both slot and wide, could only help him in reading defenses as a QB. He should be able to look pre-snap and know which receivers are likely to be open and at what point in the route. It would make post-snap reads much quicker because you progress in order of likeliness and not in order of area.

[HoopsDawg]

I would think that learning the routes/air raid as a receiver, especially if he learns both slot and wide, could only help him in reading defenses as a QB. He should be able to look pre-snap and know which receivers are likely to be open and at what point in the route. It would make post-snap reads much quicker because you progress in order of likeliness and not in order of area.

Yep. KJ is our QB this year. Also, it's a free year eligibility-wise. So why not give it a try.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Yep he's not the QB for now or the future so it doesn't hurt to try it out. If it works great for him & MSU & if it doesn't he transfers to a school that fits his skillset as a QB.

[BiscuitEater]

Yep he's not the QB for now or the future so it doesn't hurt to try it out.

Not so fast. Kid is a competitor. Hope he sticks around and competes for the QB job next year and backup qb this year. It never hurts to have good backups, especially at QB.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Not so fast. Kid is a competitor. Hope he sticks around and competes for the QB job next year and backup qb this year. It never hurts to have good backups, especially at QB.

Those aren't my thoughts they're Leach's.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just goes to show you how appealing the WR position is in Leach’s offense.

Shrader probably looks at it and says “If I made the two deep at WR at some point, I would catch 50 balls and have a chance at the NFL”

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Just goes to show you how appealing the WR position is in Leach’s offense.

Shrader probably looks at it and says “If I made the two deep at WR at some point, I would catch 50 balls and have a chance at the NFL”

I think it was more Leach saying you can hold a clipboard & signal in plays or you can try your hand at WR. This wasn't Shrader looking saying oh I want to be a WR now.

[BB30]

I think it was more Leach saying you can hold a clipboard & signal in plays or you can try your hand at WR. This wasn't Shrader looking saying oh I want to be a WR now.

No doubt.

[sandwolf]

I think it was more Leach saying you can hold a clipboard & signal in plays or you can try your hand at WR. This wasn't Shrader looking saying oh I want to be a WR now.

Don't I remember it being said that Alabama offered him out of high school as a WR? Was that true?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Don't I remember it being said that Alabama offered him out of high school as a WR? Was that true?

I've seen a few people say that but I don't know the validity.

[Bubb Rubb]

Just goes to show you how appealing the WR position is in Leach?s offense.

Shrader probably looks at it and says ?If I made the two deep at WR at some point, I would catch 50 balls and have a chance at the NFL?

Or maybe he's just thinking, "I'll bide my time this year and get on the field any way I can, and then I'll transfer to Florida and play for the SEC championship in a couple of years."

[HailStateSZN19]

Great on Shrader for being willing to give it a shot. Hurts nothing to give it a try.

But I'll be shocked if he makes an impact this season at WR or at WR ever really. He's a great athlete at QB but being a great athlete at WR in the SEC is a whole different thing. The fluidity and agility side to side to run routes to get open as a WR in the SEC is totally different from scrambling from DL and LB. Again, he's a hell of an athlete playing QB but throw him with the athletes at WR and his agility/quickness isn't what it was at QB. Just my opinion. I hope he crushes it and can get on the field though. He's a true team player being willing to do this.

Also, let the Will Rogers hype train continue building.....gonna be a DUDE.

[BB30]

Great on Shrader for being willing to give it a shot. Hurts nothing to give it a try.

But I'll be shocked if he makes an impact this season at WR or at WR ever really. He's a great athlete at QB but being a great athlete at WR in the SEC is a whole different thing. The fluidity and agility side to side to run routes to get open as a WR in the SEC is totally different from scrambling from DL and LB. Again, he's a hell of an athlete playing QB but throw him with the athletes at WR and his agility/quickness isn't what it was at QB. Just my opinion. I hope he crushes it and can get on the field though. He's a true team player being willing to do this.

Also, let the Will Rogers hype train continue building.....gonna be a DUDE.

You are correct on the agility/quickness. One thing he does have to counter some of that athleticism with is size though. At 6'5" 225 he can make some plays on balls that others may not. I doubt he sees the field as an every down WR but I could certainly see some packages with him in there for some occasional gimmick plays.

[ShotgunDawg]

Great on Shrader for being willing to give it a shot. Hurts nothing to give it a try.

But I'll be shocked if he makes an impact this season at WR or at WR ever really. He's a great athlete at QB but being a great athlete at WR in the SEC is a whole different thing. The fluidity and agility side to side to run routes to get open as a WR in the SEC is totally different from scrambling from DL and LB. Again, he's a hell of an athlete playing QB but throw him with the athletes at WR and his agility/quickness isn't what it was at QB. Just my opinion. I hope he crushes it and can get on the field though. He's a true team player being willing to do this.

Also, let the Will Rogers hype train continue building.....gonna be a DUDE.

Maybe, but he 6’5” 230. Not sure how crisp your route running has to be at that size. The quality of his hands will decide way more than his route running IMO

[HailStateSZN19]

Maybe, but he 6’5” 230. Not sure how crisp your route running has to be at that size. The quality of his hands will decide way more than his route running IMO

No doubt his size will help but size doesn't necessarily get you open consistently against SEC DB's. It gives him the potential to box out some guys and win some 50/50 balls over shorter DB's but I just see him struggling getting separation from most SEC DB's he'd face because he won't be fluid or agile enough side to side to create any separation. I'd love to be surprised and see him on the field at WR this season making some impact plays. It certainly could make for some interesting packages and trick plays.

[Johnson85]

No doubt his size will help but size doesn't necessarily get you open consistently against SEC DB's. It gives him the potential to box out some guys and win some 50/50 balls over shorter DB's but I just see him struggling getting separation from most SEC DB's he'd face because he won't be fluid or agile enough side to side to create any separation. I'd love to be surprised and see him on the field at WR this season making some impact plays. It certainly could make for some interesting packages and trick plays.

How many TEs have the agility to get open against SEC DBs? He seems as agile or more agile than most tightends. Granted he's not going to be getting in a three point stance, but he's also probably not going to be lined up on the outside going against a CB. If he plays, he'll be facing a lot of coverage from Safeties or maybe even outside linebackers if we're lucky. If we're facing zone, then it will be as much or more about his ability to find space.

[NWADAWG]

How many TEs have the agility to get open against SEC DBs? He seems as agile or more agile than most tightends. Granted he's not going to be getting in a three point stance, but he's also probably not going to be lined up on the outside going against a CB. If he plays, he'll be facing a lot of coverage from Safeties or maybe even outside linebackers if we're lucky. If we're facing zone, then it will be as much or more about his ability to find space.

Scheme, formation, and play calling will help a lot with getting open too. From what I've seen, getting open in Leach's offense is way easier than anything we've seen at State before.

Leach seems to accomplish what JoMo talked about. He attacks the defense and makes the secondary make choices about who to cover. No matter what the choice, someone is open at some point. (We still are required to actually throw the ball to the open receiver and catch the ball). Leach has scored a lot of points with some receivers that were mediocre at best.

The only way I see to keep that from happening is to play tight man on every receiver. Hill is really hoping someone dumb enough to try that.

[SheltonChoked]

No doubt his size will help but size doesn't necessarily get you open consistently against SEC DB's. It gives him the potential to box out some guys and win some 50/50 balls over shorter DB's but I just see him struggling getting separation from most SEC DB's he'd face because he won't be fluid or agile enough side to side to create any separation. I'd love to be surprised and see him on the field at WR this season making some impact plays. It certainly could make for some interesting packages and trick plays.

Mike Leach's offense gets people open.

[Offshore Dawg]

Maybe, but he 6’5” 230. Not sure how crisp your route running has to be at that size. The quality of his hands will decide way more than his route running IMO

Look at it this way how many balls does a QB field in the shotgun