Defensive Depth Chart

[msu15]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.

[Homedawg]

As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.

I'll side closer to coach on this.. Our defense wasn't good last year and we lost several major pieces, hard to see it being a whole lot better. Juco's usually take half a season to get up to speed. might see a jump halfway through. We shall see.

[Jarius]

As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.

I'll say I would much rather have problems in the secondary than problems in the front 7 and I don't think it will be a worse defense than Sirmon, but I'm not expecting much.

[Coach34]

As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.

I love these kinds of posts. File this one along with we can beat LSU/Orgeron is an awful Coach, we have a chance to win at Auburn, we have a chance to win at A&M/Jimbo sux, no way we have a losing season in 2019, and now that Joe has his QB our offense will be one of the SEC’s best

[Captain Falcon]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

I have experienced a Peter Sirmon defense and can?t imagine it being any worse than that. Don?t think it?ll be ?good? but may not be as bad as you?d think.

I actually like our front six, think they?ll be pretty solid. Secondary is absolutely a major question but if nothing else at least it?s young guys that will be going through this, and hopefully they?ll be better for it in 2021 and 2022.

[RiverCityDawg]

Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

I think Erroll, Pickering, Davis, Emerson and Murphy can be playmakers. Forbes had a ton of picks in HS (yes, HS) so I could see him making some big plays but also giving up some big plays being a true freshman.

I'm concerned about depth and holding up over the course of a game/season. I think we'll fly around but just won't have the horses to consistently get stops. I hope we're ultra aggressive and go for broke, because I fear the bend but don't break approach will just lead to consistently breaking.

[Johnson85]

I think Erroll, Pickering, Davis, Emerson and Murphy can be playmakers. Forbes had a ton of picks in HS (yes, HS) so I could see him making some big plays but also giving up some big plays being a true freshman.

I'm concerned about depth and holding up over the course of a game/season. I think we'll fly around but just won't have the horses to consistently get stops. I hope we're ultra aggressive and go for broke, because I fear the bend but don't break approach will just lead to consistently breaking.

I should have clarified playmakers in the front. In 2012 we had Banks and Slay. Did have a pretty big weak link at FS in Nikoe who was playing basically injured that sort of negated the benefit of having two lock down corners, and completely negated some games as however Chris Wilson taught them to line up made it easy for other teams to manipulate Nikoe into covering their best receiver (e.g., Moncrief in egg bowl).

Maybe Erroll having better strength and conditioning this year will be a game changer for him, but he didn't seem like a playmaker last year. Don't know about Jordan. Pickering maybe has a chance but you really have to be good to cause problems form the interior DL and I'm not sure he's there yet. Spencer and Kobe both seem like sold DL to me but not gamechangers. SPencer is another guy like Erroll that hasn't turned into what I was expecting based on production as a young player. Maybe he's fully recovered from his injury now and with the new strength and conditioning program, will show out.

[msstate7]

I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.

[HoopsDawg]

I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.

on a normal SEC roster, Forbes would redshirt this year. Run 2nd team as a Redshirt Freshman. And then compete for a starting spot his 3rd year in the program. Yes, it's concerning.

Peters and Emerson have played, but I wouldn't call them proven players. Davis and Brule haven't played at this level. Murphy played in only 4 games last year. And then I'm not sure what has happend with our SS recruiting. Seems we sign 2 SS's every year, but we don't have a ton of talent at that spot. Obviously, losing Jarrian Jones, Tyler Williams and Cam Dantlzer early hasn't helped.

[maroonmania]

I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.

So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?

[Walkerhill]

So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?

Or Kyle Cass?

[maroonmania]

Or Kyle Cass?

Cass listed on the roster as a Safety.

[Captain Falcon]

So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?

At least two of those guys will have to play out of necessity but I'm not sure if any of them are SEC quality guys. Furdge is probably the most likely to contribute of those three if I had to guess. He's only a sophomore so I'm not ready to write him off yet. Reed had a really weird recruitment in that he committed to us, we dropped him, and then we gave him a scholarship again at the last minute before signing day, so I was always iffy on if he would ever contribute. But he's still a young guy so who knows. Charles is a fifth year senior and he's not even really being discussed as a starting option at corner, I don't mean to pick on the guy but that should probably tell you what you need to know there.

The problem with all of those guys is we've recruited better players after them who have surpassed them. Emerson, Forbes, and arguably even Richardson are younger guys who are ahead of them on the depth chart in all likelihood. So I'm not sure how much of an opportunity any of them will ever really get unless we are just decimated with injuries.

[Jarius]

So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?

He quit on his team a month before the season and held a valuable scholarship hostage at a big position of need because he all of a sudden doesn’t know if he wants to play football any more.

[Homedawg]

He quit on his team a month before the season and held a valuable scholarship hostage at a big position of need because he all of a sudden doesn?t know if he wants to play football any more.

Well by then the league has already said they were gonna honor all scholarships so you think he was going to walk away from all that?? Free easy money.

[Jarius]

Well by then the league has already said they were gonna honor all scholarships so you think he was going to walk away from all that?? Free easy money.

Oh I never expected him to walk away from it. Graduating from MSU debt free and not fulfilling your obligations to do so is a good gig if you can get it.

[Cowbell]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

Just imagine if we would have kept jomo to coach it lol

[Cowbell]

There is no way it will be worse than what we watched last year. No way. Due to effort alone.

[R2Dawg]

There is no way it will be worse than what we watched last year. No way. Due to effort alone.

Agree 100%

[maroonmania]

There is no way it will be worse than what we watched last year. No way. Due to effort alone.

Also, no way it will be worse than what we got under Mullen with Sirmon.