Defensive Depth Chart

[confucius say]

Anybody got a feel for this after seeing the roster?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

DE - Jones
NG - Crumedy/Pickering
DE - Spencer
Hybrid - Davis
LB - Thompson
LB - Brule
CB - Emerson
CB - Forbes
Dog - Murphy
FS - Peters
SS - Preston/Duncan

[HailStateSZN19]

DE - Jones
NG - Crumedy/Pickering
DE - Spencer
Hybrid - Davis
LB - Thompson
LB - Brule
CB - Emerson
CB - Forbes
Dog - Murphy
FS - Peters
SS - Preston/Duncan

Forbes is going to get baptized into it. May be rough for several games but he'll be much better for it towards the end of the year and then next season. Much like Emerson last year.

"Welcome to MSU/the SEC kid, now go cover Jamarr Chase/Terrace Marshall/McMath in your first start. Oh, and it's on the road in Death Valley".

And dang, that front 6 could be stout. How do you feel about the 2-deepers behind the starters on the front 6?

[NWADAWG]

DE - Jones
NG - Crumedy/Pickering
DE - Spencer
Hybrid - Davis
LB - Thompson
LB - Brule
CB - Emerson
CB - Forbes
Dog - Murphy
FS - Peters
SS - Preston/Duncan

Are there any players that will make more than typical gains due to improved strength and conditioning?

[trojandawg]

I expect Purvis to break in the depth chart somewhere.

[confucius say]

True freshman corner unh.

What you think about arnett?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

True freshman corner unh.

What you think about arnett?

Hard to know yet.

[KOdawg1]

The starting 11 should be solid. It's the depth behind them that's concerning

[maroonmania]

The starting 11 should be solid. It's the depth behind them that's concerning

Outside of Murphy, I don't see any way we can call our starting secondary solid.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Outside of Murphy, I don't see any way we can call our starting secondary solid.

Emerson & Peters will be solid.

[R2Dawg]

Emerson & Peters will be solid.

Both are solid and may even be better than solid. Peters has the look of a serious head hunter. Can't wait to see what he does. Emerson has some ball hawk skills too.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Peters and Emerson are both solid. Peters should have gotten more reps last year in my opinion.

[Coach34]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

[Johnson85]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

ETA: If arnett can create a disruptive defense with his scheme and this defense, I think we'll have reason to feel really good about him. Even if his total defensive stats don't look good, if he creates turnovers and three and outs by being aggressive at the expense of giving up a lot of big plays, I'm not sure that's a terrible approach with Leach's offense (eventually; not sure the offense will be particularly good this year).

[Jarius]

Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

ETA: If arnett can create a disruptive defense with his scheme and this defense, I think we'll have reason to feel really good about him. Even if his total defensive stats don't look good, if he creates turnovers and three and outs by being aggressive at the expense of giving up a lot of big plays, I'm not sure that's a terrible approach with Leach's offense (eventually; not sure the offense will be particularly good this year).

We had plenty of playmakers in 2012. We had the Thorpe award winner and a current pro bowl corner in the same secondary. We had an awful DC that had no business getting that job.

[Johnson85]

We had plenty of playmakers in 2012. We had the Thorpe award winner and a current pro bowl corner in the same secondary. We had an awful DC that had no business getting that job.

I clarified in another post that I meant in the front 7. And while Wilson did a terrible job, it's also really had to play defense in the SEC without a single DL that needs to be double teamed. And we played Cherrington a lot that year if that tells you anything about our DL.

On the other hand, we did have Denico Autry, who I always thought just needed a year to get adjusted to the SEC, but it probably is pretty likely that Wilson must have held him back some, because usually your JUCOs with NFL talent manage to adjust midway through their first season.

[Jarius]

I clarified in another post that I meant in the front 7. And while Wilson did a terrible job, it's also really had to play defense in the SEC without a single DL that needs to be double teamed. And we played Cherrington a lot that year if that tells you anything about our DL.

On the other hand, we did have Denico Autry, who I always thought just needed a year to get adjusted to the SEC, but it probably is pretty likely that Wilson must have held him back some, because usually your JUCOs with NFL talent manage to adjust midway through their first season.

Yea I believe that Wilson was the problem. B. McKinney was also on that defense. He's a STUD for the Texans. Cam Lawrence made an NFL roster. Autry is playing lights out in the NFL. Josh Boyd made an NFL roster. A Thorpe award winning corner. An all pro corner. Preston Smith was not developed yet but he's a monster and was also on the roster and played.

[maroonmania]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.

[ShotgunDawg]

Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.

I wouldn’t count Calloway yet.

Young, Derrick Hall, Turnage, and Charles Moore going crazy are the biggest ones.

This is the price Of 3 coaching staffs in 3 years. You can’t win crooting battles against blue bloods when they have head coach/program stability and you don’t.

[ShotgunDawg]

Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.

Won’t be great but it won’t be a Sirmon or Tutor gate bad defense.

Our defense vs Auburn, Texas A&M, and Bama last year were the worst MSU defensive efforts I’ve ever seen