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    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

    ETA: If arnett can create a disruptive defense with his scheme and this defense, I think we'll have reason to feel really good about him. Even if his total defensive stats don't look good, if he creates turnovers and three and outs by being aggressive at the expense of giving up a lot of big plays, I'm not sure that's a terrible approach with Leach's offense (eventually; not sure the offense will be particularly good this year).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

    ETA: If arnett can create a disruptive defense with his scheme and this defense, I think we'll have reason to feel really good about him. Even if his total defensive stats don't look good, if he creates turnovers and three and outs by being aggressive at the expense of giving up a lot of big plays, I'm not sure that's a terrible approach with Leach's offense (eventually; not sure the offense will be particularly good this year).

    We had plenty of playmakers in 2012. We had the Thorpe award winner and a current pro bowl corner in the same secondary. We had an awful DC that had no business getting that job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    We had plenty of playmakers in 2012. We had the Thorpe award winner and a current pro bowl corner in the same secondary. We had an awful DC that had no business getting that job.
    I clarified in another post that I meant in the front 7. And while Wilson did a terrible job, it's also really had to play defense in the SEC without a single DL that needs to be double teamed. And we played Cherrington a lot that year if that tells you anything about our DL.

    On the other hand, we did have Denico Autry, who I always thought just needed a year to get adjusted to the SEC, but it probably is pretty likely that Wilson must have held him back some, because usually your JUCOs with NFL talent manage to adjust midway through their first season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    I clarified in another post that I meant in the front 7. And while Wilson did a terrible job, it's also really had to play defense in the SEC without a single DL that needs to be double teamed. And we played Cherrington a lot that year if that tells you anything about our DL.

    On the other hand, we did have Denico Autry, who I always thought just needed a year to get adjusted to the SEC, but it probably is pretty likely that Wilson must have held him back some, because usually your JUCOs with NFL talent manage to adjust midway through their first season.
    Yea I believe that Wilson was the problem. B. McKinney was also on that defense. He's a STUD for the Texans. Cam Lawrence made an NFL roster. Autry is playing lights out in the NFL. Josh Boyd made an NFL roster. A Thorpe award winning corner. An all pro corner. Preston Smith was not developed yet but he's a monster and was also on the roster and played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.
    I wouldn’t count Calloway yet.

    Young, Derrick Hall, Turnage, and Charles Moore going crazy are the biggest ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Won’t be great but it won’t be a Sirmon or Tutor gate bad defense.

    Our defense vs Auburn, Texas A&M, and Bama last year were the worst MSU defensive efforts I’ve ever seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.
    I'll side closer to coach on this.. Our defense wasn't good last year and we lost several major pieces, hard to see it being a whole lot better. Juco's usually take half a season to get up to speed. might see a jump halfway through. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.
    I'll say I would much rather have problems in the secondary than problems in the front 7 and I don't think it will be a worse defense than Sirmon, but I'm not expecting much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    As usual, you are wrong. You're getting senile in your old age.
    I love these kinds of posts. File this one along with we can beat LSU/Orgeron is an awful Coach, we have a chance to win at Auburn, we have a chance to win at A&M/Jimbo sux, no way we have a losing season in 2019, and now that Joe has his QB our offense will be one of the SEC’s best
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