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    Defensive Depth Chart

    Anybody got a feel for this after seeing the roster?

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    DE - Jones
    NG - Crumedy/Pickering
    DE - Spencer
    Hybrid - Davis
    LB - Thompson
    LB - Brule
    CB - Emerson
    CB - Forbes
    Dog - Murphy
    FS - Peters
    SS - Preston/Duncan
    Last edited by Ifyouonlyknew; 08-19-2020 at 12:02 AM.

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    True freshman corner unh.

    What you think about arnett?

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    The starting 11 should be solid. It's the depth behind them that's concerning

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    The starting 11 should be solid. It's the depth behind them that's concerning
    Outside of Murphy, I don't see any way we can call our starting secondary solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Outside of Murphy, I don't see any way we can call our starting secondary solid.
    Emerson & Peters will be solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    True freshman corner unh.

    What you think about arnett?
    Hard to know yet.

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    Peters and Emerson are both solid. Peters should have gotten more reps last year in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    DE - Jones
    NG - Crumedy/Pickering
    DE - Spencer
    Hybrid - Davis
    LB - Thompson
    LB - Brule
    CB - Emerson
    CB - Forbes
    Dog - Murphy
    FS - Peters
    SS - Preston/Duncan
    Forbes is going to get baptized into it. May be rough for several games but he'll be much better for it towards the end of the year and then next season. Much like Emerson last year.

    "Welcome to MSU/the SEC kid, now go cover Jamarr Chase/Terrace Marshall/McMath in your first start. Oh, and it's on the road in Death Valley".

    And dang, that front 6 could be stout. How do you feel about the 2-deepers behind the starters on the front 6?
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    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Just out here kicking rocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.

    ETA: If arnett can create a disruptive defense with his scheme and this defense, I think we'll have reason to feel really good about him. Even if his total defensive stats don't look good, if he creates turnovers and three and outs by being aggressive at the expense of giving up a lot of big plays, I'm not sure that's a terrible approach with Leach's offense (eventually; not sure the offense will be particularly good this year).
    Last edited by Johnson85; 08-19-2020 at 08:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    I have experienced a Peter Sirmon defense and can?t imagine it being any worse than that. Don?t think it?ll be ?good? but may not be as bad as you?d think.

    I actually like our front six, think they?ll be pretty solid. Secondary is absolutely a major question but if nothing else at least it?s young guys that will be going through this, and hopefully they?ll be better for it in 2021 and 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Reminds me a 2012. Plenty of solid players, but no playmakers. Not sure I see anybody that is going to be disruptive or demand a double team, and then you couple that with an inexperienced secondary.
    I think Erroll, Pickering, Davis, Emerson and Murphy can be playmakers. Forbes had a ton of picks in HS (yes, HS) so I could see him making some big plays but also giving up some big plays being a true freshman.

    I'm concerned about depth and holding up over the course of a game/season. I think we'll fly around but just won't have the horses to consistently get stops. I hope we're ultra aggressive and go for broke, because I fear the bend but don't break approach will just lead to consistently breaking.

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    I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.
    on a normal SEC roster, Forbes would redshirt this year. Run 2nd team as a Redshirt Freshman. And then compete for a starting spot his 3rd year in the program. Yes, it's concerning.

    Peters and Emerson have played, but I wouldn't call them proven players. Davis and Brule haven't played at this level. Murphy played in only 4 games last year. And then I'm not sure what has happend with our SS recruiting. Seems we sign 2 SS's every year, but we don't have a ton of talent at that spot. Obviously, losing Jarrian Jones, Tyler Williams and Cam Dantlzer early hasn't helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I saw Forbes against Neshoba central last year. He was electric. He was also very thin. Pretty surprised he's projected to start day 1. Pretty concerning he could be covering LSU's WRs in first action.
    So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    So none of Korey Charles, Esias Furdge or Jaylon Reed are SEC quality CBs? Also, anyone know what the deal is with Tyler Williams?
    Or Kyle Cass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Thats going to be the worst D we have put on the field in awhile.
    Won’t be great but it won’t be a Sirmon or Tutor gate bad defense.

    Our defense vs Auburn, Texas A&M, and Bama last year were the worst MSU defensive efforts I’ve ever seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Besides the fact that there haven't been as many impact defensive players in the state lately, we've missed out on several high profile guys that went out of state. AL is really getting us lately taking Byron Young, Turnage and just took Callaway from us in this year's class. But there really haven't been any Fletcher Cox/Chris Jones/Jeff Simmons type players come out lately. Hoping Pickering can get close to that level.
    I wouldn’t count Calloway yet.

    Young, Derrick Hall, Turnage, and Charles Moore going crazy are the biggest ones.

    This is the price Of 3 coaching staffs in 3 years. You can’t win crooting battles against blue bloods when they have head coach/program stability and you don’t.
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