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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    i will be more upset if we push for a season, without a clear way of handling this, without every option for a player to opt out, without safety protocals in place, without everyone acknowledging the true scientific danger that football has with covid, and one of our 18-22 year old players die due to something we all could have avoided.

    I will not push for football because I feel like by pushing for it I am at fault if someone dies. The way our country opened back up after the shutdown was enough for me. People forgot safety measures that were simple. Football is an option, not a necessary need. Pandemics require reflection on what we have to have and want to have in my opinion.
    That's fine to not push for it. But you being irrational is no reason to punish 18-22 year old athletes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    let us all know when someone you know catches this randomly and dies. I don't know a single one of our players personally, but they are our family.
    So the way you will feel better if one our players randomly dies, is to know that we deprived him of the chance to play the sport he loves during his last year on earth.

    Man, it's weird how human being are wired.

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    The nice thing about all this discussion is that we will have a chance to go back and look at athletes who got to play vs those that didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    The nice thing about all this discussion is that we will have a chance to go back and look at athletes who got to play vs those that didn't.
    And if they get sick outside of football, their actions that led to that were not coerced by a system that literally holds their future in their hands. At that point it is entirely their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    That's fine to not push for it. But you being irrational is no reason to punish 18-22 year old athletes.
    It is irrational to believe that our university should give the players every opportunity to not play if they object to it. It is irrational to believe that the players should have 100% a clear choice whether to play or not. It is irrational to not minimize the risk anyone who is outside their bubble is under.

    1. Players get a free choice to either play or don't, maintaining all perks or equal to what they would receive as a player.
    2. The AD office to take every single precaution that can be taken to minimize the players ongoing risk day to day during the season.

    That is pretty much all I would need to get behind it. None of that is irrational. Acknowledging and not minimizing the risk that humans have to this virus is the irrational part, by definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    So the way you will feel better if one our players randomly dies, is to know that we deprived him of the chance to play the sport he loves during his last year on earth.

    Man, it's weird how human being are wired.
    What is weird is that you don't understand, whether they play or not, they still have a scholarship to attend classes and do all the things they would normally do as a student. Just no football. Kylin was talking as if they cancelled football he would be sitting his ass in Columbus every day. Shit man, he still has class and still can stay at his apartment in Starkville and chill. It's not a choice between football and selling shit on street corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    there was around 2360 abortions today. There will be about that many tomorrow.
    Now there is a pandemic that needs solving.


    Also for all the no football due to safety concerns, just listen to that statement. Athletes are hurt for life and some can even die playing football due to football so this not playing so no one ever gets damaged is a joke.

    I got news for some one of out one persons born dies from something.

    There is no safe bubble in this world but there is a safe bubble in the other world - trust in Jesus now while you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    It is irrational to believe that our university should give the players every opportunity to not play if they object to it. It is irrational to believe that the players should have 100% a clear choice whether to play or not. It is irrational to not minimize the risk anyone who is outside their bubble is under.

    1. Players get a free choice to either play or don't, maintaining all perks or equal to what they would receive as a player.
    2. The AD office to take every single precaution that can be taken to minimize the players ongoing risk day to day during the season.

    That is pretty much all I would need to get behind it. None of that is irrational. Acknowledging and not minimizing the risk that humans have to this virus is the irrational part, by definition.
    That has literally already happened. So tyou are behind starting the season then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    It is irrational to believe that our university should give the players every opportunity to not play if they object to it. It is irrational to believe that the players should have 100% a clear choice whether to play or not. It is irrational to not minimize the risk anyone who is outside their bubble is under.

    1. Players get a free choice to either play or don't, maintaining all perks or equal to what they would receive as a player.
    2. The AD office to take every single precaution that can be taken to minimize the players ongoing risk day to day during the season.

    That is pretty much all I would need to get behind it. None of that is irrational. Acknowledging and not minimizing the risk that humans have to this virus is the irrational part, by definition.
    Not trying to be an ass, but have you not read anything about the options these players have? All of this is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    It is irrational to believe that our university should give the players every opportunity to not play if they object to it. It is irrational to believe that the players should have 100% a clear choice whether to play or not. It is irrational to not minimize the risk anyone who is outside their bubble is under.

    1. Players get a free choice to either play or don't, maintaining all perks or equal to what they would receive as a player.
    2. The AD office to take every single precaution that can be taken to minimize the players ongoing risk day to day during the season.

    That is pretty much all I would need to get behind it. None of that is irrational. Acknowledging and not minimizing the risk that humans have to this virus is the irrational part, by definition.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    What is weird is that you don't understand, whether they play or not, they still have a scholarship to attend classes and do all the things they would normally do as a student. Just no football. Kylin was talking as if they cancelled football he would be sitting his ass in Columbus every day. Shit man, he still has class and still can stay at his apartment in Starkville and chill. It's not a choice between football and selling shit on street corners.
    Man, the two of you posting on the same account really need to get separate accounts. It's not like they charge. The one that says he just wants the players to have a choice to play or not and not lose any benefits or perks and doesn't realize that was always going to be the case could be "Lord McBuckiethead1" and the one that does realize they aren't going to be losing their perks but for some reason accuses other people of not understanding that could be "Lord McBuckethead2".

    Or maybe y'all could just come up with two completely new user names and cut out some of the confusion. But y'all posting on the same account two minutes apart from each other claiming opposite things is unnecessarily confusing.

    But yes, McBuckethead2, you are correct that they won't have to sell shit on the corners if they opt out or if they aren't even given the choice to play. But that's irrelevant to the question of whether they should be denied even the opportunity to play because other people might feel bad if something bad happens in a pandemic. But McBuckethead1, despite not realizing that the players aren't being coerced into playing by threatening their scholarships if they opt to sit out, is correct that it shoudl just be their decision once they are informed of the risk and the procedures that will be put in place to try to minimize the risk to the extent possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Man, the two of you posting on the same account really need to get separate accounts. It's not like they charge. The one that says he just wants the players to have a choice to play or not and not lose any benefits or perks and doesn't realize that was always going to be the case could be "Lord McBuckiethead1" and the one that does realize they aren't going to be losing their perks but for some reason accuses other people of not understanding that could be "Lord McBuckethead2".

    Or maybe y'all could just come up with two completely new user names and cut out some of the confusion. But y'all posting on the same account two minutes apart from each other claiming opposite things is unnecessarily confusing.

    But yes, McBuckethead2, you are correct that they won't have to sell shit on the corners if they opt out or if they aren't even given the choice to play. But that's irrelevant to the question of whether they should be denied even the opportunity to play because other people might feel bad if something bad happens in a pandemic. But McBuckethead1, despite not realizing that the players aren't being coerced into playing by threatening their scholarships if they opt to sit out, is correct that it shoudl just be their decision once they are informed of the risk and the procedures that will be put in place to try to minimize the risk to the extent possible.
    So, with the schizophrenic posts, has Goat finally outed himself???
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    So, with the schizophrenic posts, has Goat finally outed himself???
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    OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
    The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Now there is a pandemic that needs solving.


    Also for all the no football due to safety concerns, just listen to that statement. Athletes are hurt for life and some can even die playing football due to football so this not playing so no one ever gets damaged is a joke.

    I got news for some one of out one persons born dies from something.

    There is no safe bubble in this world but there is a safe bubble in the other world - trust in Jesus now while you can.
    Truer words were never spoken! Amen a million times over! Tried to give Rep but need to spread it around more first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Man, the two of you posting on the same account really need to get separate accounts. It's not like they charge. The one that says he just wants the players to have a choice to play or not and not lose any benefits or perks and doesn't realize that was always going to be the case could be "Lord McBuckiethead1" and the one that does realize they aren't going to be losing their perks but for some reason accuses other people of not understanding that could be "Lord McBuckethead2".

    Or maybe y'all could just come up with two completely new user names and cut out some of the confusion. But y'all posting on the same account two minutes apart from each other claiming opposite things is unnecessarily confusing.

    But yes, McBuckethead2, you are correct that they won't have to sell shit on the corners if they opt out or if they aren't even given the choice to play. But that's irrelevant to the question of whether they should be denied even the opportunity to play because other people might feel bad if something bad happens in a pandemic. But McBuckethead1, despite not realizing that the players aren't being coerced into playing by threatening their scholarships if they opt to sit out, is correct that it shoudl just be their decision once they are informed of the risk and the procedures that will be put in place to try to minimize the risk to the extent possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Wish I could rep you!
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    A 7 year old healthy child in Savannah Georgia just died from COVID.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsa...-covid-19/amp/


    But yea, all?s good. Play ball baby!

    Statistically, kids have a MUCH greater chance of falling and dying in the bathtub than from COVID. In the entire State of Virginia, NO ONE under the age of nineteen has died from COVID this entire year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiscuitEater View Post
    Statistically, kids have a MUCH greater chance of falling and dying in the bathtub than from COVID. In the entire State of Virginia, NO ONE under the age of nineteen has died from COVID this entire year!
    There's a greater chance kids die from that nasty flesh eating bacteria in salt water than the virus also. We need to stop all activities in brackish/saltwater during summer months.

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    This is the best talk I’ve seen on the subject yet...

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