Will there be College Football this fall - Update

[ScoobaDawg]

Ok

Big 10 - out. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ootball-season
Pac 10 - out https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ts-eyes-spring


Big 12 - on the clock. ad meeting at 5. presidents at 6. split as of now.

SEC is asking Big 10 and Pac10 for their medical reasoning's...




Scooba tech - OUT

[Lord McBuckethead]

Their medical reasoning is that players could contract the virus on the field or at practice and potentially die. Something that the school could avoid by simply not playing football. This in no way diminishes the players ability to contract the virus going to class, the store, their mother's house, or banging some coed. Difference is, all of those actions are totally out of the control of the university and is a personal choice by each student/athlete.

Chances are, if every single football player in america contracted Covid, some would need to hospitalized. Some may even die.

Now, here is the biggest kicker in the entire discussion. If every single college guaranteed the players their scholarships regardless if they played or not. Allowed each player to decide whether they are going to play or not independently and they can change their mind at anytime. All medical expenses covered for as long as you show symptoms by the university. Sign on the dotted line acknowledging the risk of death due to covid. Then hell the players chose it. Let's kick off.

Edited to Add
I am sympathetic to the players that really want to play. I am sympathetic to all the businesses that rely on football games. I am sympathetic to the universities need for football. But what happens if a guy on our team catches it and dies. I would rather not have it than for one of our players or any other player in Mississippi catch this thing and someone die. Chances are that is not going to happen, but I wouldn't take that risk.

[maroonmania]

Their medical reasoning is that players could contract the virus on the field or at practice and potentially die. Something that the school could avoid by simply not playing football. This in no way diminishes the players ability to contract the virus going to class, the store, their mother's house, or banging some coed. Difference is, all of those actions are totally out of the control of the university and is a personal choice by each student/athlete.

This is just flat out wrong. ANY player can opt out of playing football this season and still have his scholarship honored with no adverse consequences. Has a student that opts out of a class over COVID fears been guaranteed to pass the class or been guaranteed an online option of the class? Not that I'm aware of. Football players actually appear to have more choice options than regular students from what I can see.

[Johnson85]

Their medical reasoning is that players could contract the virus on the field or at practice and potentially die. Something that the school could avoid by simply not playing football. This in no way diminishes the players ability to contract the virus going to class, the store, their mother's house, or banging some coed. Difference is, all of those actions are totally out of the control of the university and is a personal choice by each student/athlete.

Chances are, if every single football player in america contracted Covid, some would need to hospitalized. Some may even die.

Now, here is the biggest kicker in the entire discussion. If every single college guaranteed the players their scholarships regardless if they played or not. Allowed each player to decide whether they are going to play or not independently and they can change their mind at anytime. All medical expenses covered for as long as you show symptoms by the university. Sign on the dotted line acknowledging the risk of death due to covid. Then hell the players chose it. Let's kick off.

Edited to Add
I am sympathetic to the players that really want to play. I am sympathetic to all the businesses that rely on football games. I am sympathetic to the universities need for football. But what happens if a guy on our team catches it and dies. I would rather not have it than for one of our players or any other player in Mississippi catch this thing and someone die. Chances are that is not going to happen, but I wouldn't take that risk.

What risk are you talking about? Unless we find out something funky about the spread during football, if a player catches COVID and dies, there's a pretty decent chance that means they would have caught covid and died had they not been playing football. You're talking about depriving a lot of college athletes of sports just because we'll feel less bad if they caught COVID from a bar and died than if they caught it at football and died? I don't really get why we'd feel worse about one than the other. If heart issues are the concern, then they can do ekgs and require anybody with any issue to abstain from practice or play for the rest of the season.

[ScoobaDawg]

this shouldn't be funny but it is...

[msbulldog]

Remember Rodney Stowers?

[DownwardDawg]

Remember Rodney Stowers?

Yes. Heart attack due to clot from broken leg right???

[Cooterpoot]

Their medical reasoning is that players could contract the virus on the field or at practice and potentially die. Something that the school could avoid by simply not playing football. This in no way diminishes the players ability to contract the virus going to class, the store, their mother's house, or banging some coed. Difference is, all of those actions are totally out of the control of the university and is a personal choice by each student/athlete.

Chances are, if every single football player in america contracted Covid, some would need to hospitalized. Some may even die.

Now, here is the biggest kicker in the entire discussion. If every single college guaranteed the players their scholarships regardless if they played or not. Allowed each player to decide whether they are going to play or not independently and they can change their mind at anytime. All medical expenses covered for as long as you show symptoms by the university. Sign on the dotted line acknowledging the risk of death due to covid. Then hell the players chose it. Let's kick off.

Edited to Add
I am sympathetic to the players that really want to play. I am sympathetic to all the businesses that rely on football games. I am sympathetic to the universities need for football. But what happens if a guy on our team catches it and dies. I would rather not have it than for one of our players or any other player in Mississippi catch this thing and someone die. Chances are that is not going to happen, but I wouldn't take that risk.

There's no protection for those millions of students and teachers on campuses across the country. So that argument is horse shit.
Still haven't seen any athletes die in pro ball. High school ball starts this week. What about those kids? HS has been going for a week plus now. No problems really.

[Lord McBuckethead]

There's no protection for those millions of students and teachers on campuses across the country. So that argument is horse shit.
Still haven't seen any athletes die in pro ball. High school ball starts this week. What about those kids? HS has been going for a week plus now. No problems really.

Believe what you want, but the manner in which college players are exploited for gigantic sums of money does factor into this equation. Whether it is just optics or not, whether their scholarships is payment enough, whether it is fair they can't make money just like any other student or not.....it definitely means they are not the same discussion as a regular student.

Let me know when a 85 college students are worth a 40 million dollar windfall check from espn, and not to mention 47000 season tickets and donations.

Pro players have contracts, agents, players associations, and they get paid directly. Not the same discussion at all.

You do have a point about hs though. They profit motive isn't there like the ncaa. Other than UM recruits, these players are choosing to play similar to rec league competition. So if the player's families sign off, good to go.

All I am saying, make sure college players have their scholarship regardless. Have them sign a waiver acknowledging that football has direct contact and puts them at a higher risk of dying. Have a testing system in place that every team in the league has to meet. Have a bubble created around these guys for the season. Have 20 weeks to play 10 games. No fans. Lets kick this thing off.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Some folks will be wearing masks 10 years from now and will be working remotely forever.

Soccer has been playing and training for 2 months. German, English, Spanish and European Tournaments all started and some are now finished up.

Tomorrow the Champions League starts a new round. Paris SG vs Atalanta

[Jack Lambert]

Some folks will be wearing masks 10 years from now and will be working remotely forever.

Soccer has been playing and training for 2 months. German, English, Spanish and European Tournaments all started and some are now finished up.

Tomorrow the Champions League starts a new round. Paris SG vs Atalanta

There will be posters on this board who will be more upset if there is a season than posters if there isn't a season. As far as the SEC goes it comes down to how big and how long is the out break when the students get back on campus. I suspect most of those bar hopping, legg hunting horn dogs have already gotten it.

[Lord McBuckethead]

There will be posters on this board who will be more upset if there is a season than posters if there isn't a season. As far as the SEC goes it comes down to how big and how long is the out break when the students get back on campus. I suspect most of those bar hopping, legg hunting horn dogs have already gotten it.

i will be more upset if we push for a season, without a clear way of handling this, without every option for a player to opt out, without safety protocals in place, without everyone acknowledging the true scientific danger that football has with covid, and one of our 18-22 year old players die due to something we all could have avoided.

I will not push for football because I feel like by pushing for it I am at fault if someone dies. The way our country opened back up after the shutdown was enough for me. People forgot safety measures that were simple. Football is an option, not a necessary need. Pandemics require reflection on what we have to have and want to have in my opinion.

[KOdawg1]

i will be more upset if we push for a season, without a clear way of handling this, without every option for a player to opt out, without safety protocals in place, without everyone acknowledging the true scientific danger that football has with covid, and one of our 18-22 year old players die due to something we all could have avoided.

Something tells me you will be upset even if we abide by every single one of those precautions you outlined. Just a hunch.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Something tells me you will be upset even if we abide by every single one of those precautions you outlined. Just a hunch.

Upset yes. But, if the players has every option to not play, but the choose to still play. Well that is their choice. Just as long as they are not coerced into it. I want football as much as the next guy. I have lived my life the last 6 months with every possible precaution taken, doing my duty, to keep the numbers down. some people on here still question basic science's direction on this virus. So forgive me if I believe one dang word out of some of your mouths. Too many people being "me, me, me" on here to be trusted with this discussion.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Something tells me you will be upset even if we abide by every single one of those precautions you outlined. Just a hunch.

I am also sure there are 20-30 more precautions that need to be taken over what I have stated. I was just spit balling off the top of my head.

[Johnson85]

i will be more upset if we push for a season, without a clear way of handling this, without every option for a player to opt out, without safety protocals in place, without everyone acknowledging the true scientific danger that football has with covid, and one of our 18-22 year old players die due to something we all could have avoided.

I will not push for football because I feel like by pushing for it I am at fault if someone dies. The way our country opened back up after the shutdown was enough for me. People forgot safety measures that were simple. Football is an option, not a necessary need. Pandemics require reflection on what we have to have and want to have in my opinion.

That's fine to not push for it. But you being irrational is no reason to punish 18-22 year old athletes.

[Lord McBuckethead]

That's fine to not push for it. But you being irrational is no reason to punish 18-22 year old athletes.

It is irrational to believe that our university should give the players every opportunity to not play if they object to it. It is irrational to believe that the players should have 100% a clear choice whether to play or not. It is irrational to not minimize the risk anyone who is outside their bubble is under.

1. Players get a free choice to either play or don't, maintaining all perks or equal to what they would receive as a player.
2. The AD office to take every single precaution that can be taken to minimize the players ongoing risk day to day during the season.

That is pretty much all I would need to get behind it. None of that is irrational. Acknowledging and not minimizing the risk that humans have to this virus is the irrational part, by definition.

[Vandownbytheriver]

With all of the sketchy stuff that goes on in college football, I can see a coach covering up one of his star players having Covid if they think it will cost them a win. I think that might be part of some of the thought process with these folks. If that happens, the liability from a university could be crippling.

[Homedawg]

The way every team is doing tracing even w minimal positives it's impossible to play....

[Mobile Bay]

The way every team is doing tracing even w minimal positives it's impossible to play....

Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?