Shannon Terry says....

[MSUDAWGFAN]

No, but keep in mind, Bill Kristol is one of the loudest "Never Trumpers" on the planet.

If it's a conservative site, surely there is at least one positive article on Trump. In the 5-10 minutes I spent looking at it, I couldn't find one. Not one.

And if you say, like someone else did, that the site I listed, PJMedia is "bullshit", then there should be at least some "bullshit" on there too.

Just link one positive article on Trump. Just one.

[Quaoarsking]

Well, Nancy Pelosi is one. Here is her statement.

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/13120-2

This is from January 31, the same day Trump issued the ban.

Well ... Here is the whole press release you linked. Notice anything?

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi released this statement after the Trump Administration announced it is adding Myanmar, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Nigeria, Tanzania and Sudan to the travel ban that the President instituted three years ago:

“The Trump Administration’s expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law. The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy.

“America’s strength has always been as a beacon of hope and opportunity for people around the world, whose dreams and aspirations have enriched our nation and made America more American. With this latest callous decision, the President has doubled down on his cruelty and further undermined our global leadership, our Constitution and our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants.

“In the Congress and in the Courts, House Democrats will continue to oppose the Administration’s dangerous anti-immigrant agenda. In the coming weeks, the House Judiciary Committee will mark-up and bring to the Floor the NO BAN Act to prohibit religious discrimination in our immigration system and limit the President’s ability to impose such biased and bigoted restrictions. We will never allow hatred or bigotry to define our nation or destroy our values.”

And yes, Joe Biden was another. He can go back and try revisionist history, and that works with a large percentage of the population. But he said it then. And he said it specifically due to the travel ban.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...dly-xenophobic

That article doesn't attribute any quote about Biden calling the travel ban xenophobic, nor does it say he said that without quoting him. I'm not really sure why you linked it to me. I already stated that Biden has called Trump xenophobic in general, just that he didn't say that specifically about the travle ban.

[MSUDAWGFAN]

Where is the full quote and context of that discussion? I would like to see it.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...-trump-n624305

[Extendedcab]

I wish obama had another term to serve. i would vote for him in a second.
And yes, there is literally nothing you could say to change my mind. Nothing. I know what I value in leadership. I know what I would like this country to become, a more perfect union. I understand basic math. I own my own small business. I used to understand Republicans. Not anymore.

Oh my, have you actually looked at the DNC.org web site to see their "values" and compare them to the GOP.com values? The DNC is NOT Pro Life, NOT Pro family (any same sex union qualify), NOT pro Second Amendment, NOT free enterprise supportive (socialism), NOT for border security, NOT pro free speech (look at conservative speakers that have been protested), NOT for individual freedoms (socialist), NOT for private property ownership, NOT pro dignity of a man (welfare for generations), NOT pro capital punishment, NOT industry friendly (kill industry with carbon tax or other environmental restrictions), NOT pro strong military, NOT pro judges that adjudicate according to the constitution, NOT pro founding fathers principles (want to change the birth date of the US), NOT pro America first, NOT pro innocent before proven guilty, NOT pro individual accountability, NOT pro freedom of religion - Christanity (unless it is human secularism) and NOT pro small government. What they are for though is, government run healthcare, guaranteed government monthly salary (welfare for all), limited freedoms that those before us fought and died for, every perversion known to man (you can even marry your personal digital assistant), legalizing illicit drugs (get stoned everybody - yeah), convict a person on hearsay, convict a person with the press (fake news), releasing criminals from prison, pro rioting and destroying private property, pro raising taxes, pro killing babies in the womb (the innocent), raise minimum wages (until no one can afford the products being produced), pro gun control (look at more restrictive cities like Chicago and DC for examples of how great that works). So what exactly do you like about the DNC posture? It is pro-death! Death to America, Death to freedoms, death to accountability, death to the American dream and anti Biblical values!

Read the GOP.com site and see the values they uphold. It is in stark contrast and opposite to what the DNC stand for.

Forget the actual people in Congress, in each party, for the moment and consider that regardless of the party, 99%+ of the time members of Congress vote party line due to pressure form the party leadership. Some of you people look only at the personality of the person and not what the person or their political party stands for.

If you can't understand Republicans (not RINOs) it is because the light is too bright and you can not see your surroundings!

[Quaoarsking]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...-trump-n624305

"PJ Media" is probably not a website you want to rely on, considering how they've gotten caught making up fake stories about Google's algorithm and what is and isn't in the Green New Deal (something very easily verifiable on the US House website).

[Commercecomet24]

Stans!!!!!

I knew I'd forget one!

[Commercecomet24]

I'd give a lot of money to watch Brandon Holloway run up the middle or Moorhead's check with me no huddle offense moving at a snails pace

Same here! Heck I'd give almost anything to watch a Croom led team at this point!

[Extendedcab]

Same here! Heck I'd give almost anything to watch a Croom led team at this point!

Isn't that a little painful given his overall record?

[ScoobaDawg]

Y'all have fun. will be no lock. done policing this crap.

[DLGDawg]

Anyone else miss the days when we just fought about Mullen, Moorhead, Howland, Cohen bunting all the time, etc?

Absolutely. One thing I know for certain...if there was a dem pres when all this started....the reps would be saying the dems handled it terribly. If there was a rep pres, the dems would be saying....you get the idea.

[Commercecomet24]

Isn't that a little painful given his overall record?

While watching his teams were painful, what's going on right now in the world and the on this board is more painful.

[Commercecomet24]

Y'all have fun. will be no lock. done policing this crap.

I don't blame you one bit.

[BeardoMSU]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...-trump-n624305

Ok, that article links a 40 second clip of Klain talking as part of a CSPAN panel on H1N1. Yes, he does say that "they did everything wrong", "we were lucky", and "it could happen again". He then says "But I'll say this...", but the video cuts away, and doesn't give context to what he was discussing in full. Unfortunately, that 40 second clip is all I can find on YouTube, and it's only on pro-Trump YouTube pages.

Saying you were unprepared to deal with something unprecedented, learned as you went, got very lucky, and passing on that knowledge to the next group is....failure?

That's because Klain is in no way saying his efforts or that of the administration were a "failure".

Here is the full interview.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?460710...-summit-part-2

Edit: also let me add, that to distill that entire panel discussion into a 40 second clip out of context, is bottom of the barrel intellectual dishonesty. The full scope of Klein's comments are quite fascinating, especially considering the state we're in now, as that was exactly what he was warning against.

[DownwardDawg]

Y'all have fun. will be no lock. done policing this crap.

Awwwww Hail!!!!!! Here we go.......

[MSUDAWGFAN]

"PJ Media" is probably not a website you want to rely on, considering how they've gotten caught making up fake stories about Google's algorithm and what is and isn't in the Green New Deal (something very easily verifiable on the US House website).

Is that similar to MSNBC completely ignoring the commetn Joe Biden made about "Latinos having diversity of thought. but the black community does not." I know that isn't the exact quote, but it's something along those lines.

How about this - as someone else said, there is nothing I can do to change their mind, despite any facts I may present. His mind is made up. I like to think I can change my mind, and in fact have. For one, I didn't even vote for Trump in the primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. True story. But, I admit I was wrong. I was scared Trump would be a bait and switch because he has supported Democrats in the past. I figured once elected, he would pass liberal policies. He hasn't. And his economy was so great that Obama was trying to take credit for it 3 years later.

But since you discredit any source I have, let's just stop talking about it. I'm sure I can't convince you, and Democrats - with their talk of Xenophobia and horrible economic recovery with higher taxes can't convince me. So, let's just stop.

Have a nice day.

[Extendedcab]

While watching his teams were painful, what's going on right now in the world and the on this board is more painful.

I couldn't agree more. What an option though, smash you left toes with a hammer or smash your right toes with a hammer - OUCH! It all hurts!!

[Commercecomet24]

I couldn't agree more. What an option though, smash you left toes with a hammer or smash your right toes with a hammer - OUCH! It all hurts!!

LOL exactly!

[Jack Lambert]

Y'all have fun. will be no lock. done policing this crap.

That happened at SPS. The animals are running the zoo.

[Dawgology]

Y'all have fun. will be no lock. done policing this crap.

Well this just went to a "whole nutha level"...

[gravedigger]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What a couple of douchebags. 17'n ban me, I don't give a shit. To even be remotely associated with people like this is a joke. Of course, being from MS, I've been around people like this my whole life.

Kinda makes you wish the same brand of douchebags weren't running our country, huh?