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Question: If you put the 2014 Offense with the 2018 Defense does MSU win....
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Depends on the coach. 2014, good chance. 2018, hell no
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Originally Posted by
Rick Danko
Depends on the coach. 2014, good chance. 2018, hell no
I'm not sure we get their with Dan either. His risk aversion, tendency to take his foot off the gas, and tendency to play experience over talent, I think still would have kept us out of winning the Natty.
It would be fun to watch though.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
A Natty?
was watching replay last night of 2014 of State vs LSU .... That 2014 defense was pretty tough under G Collins - not sure just how much 2018 defense improves it
OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
was watching replay last night of 2014 of State vs LSU .... That 2014 defense was pretty tough under G Collins - not sure just how much 2018 defense improves it
The DL depth on the 2018 team was unbelievable. You essentially had a 3-deep rotation of guys who you could rotate in and out without seeing a drop in production. The 2014 defense was pretty solid, but they could've been even better if not for the 1A-1B crap. The 2018 defense had the depth to make mass rotations like that. The 2014 defense did not.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
was watching replay last night of 2014 of State vs LSU .... That 2014 defense was pretty tough under G Collins - not sure just how much 2018 defense improves it
I think the '14 defense was a little stifled because of the 1A/1B stuff, and probably would have been higher rated if they stuck to a traditional player rotation.
That being said, I think the difference in the 2 defenses was the back end. Abrams was such a beast.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I think the '14 defense was a little stifled because of the 1A/1B stuff, and probably would have been higher rated if they stuck to a traditional player rotation.
That being said, I think the difference in the 2 defenses was the back end. Abrams was such a beast.
after some checking it looks like you and KO are correct .... 2014 LSU total yards were 430 but in 2018 their total yards were around 250 (can't remember exact yardage but this is close)
OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.
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Yes, we wouldn’t have gone down 19-0 to Alabama and had to mount a furious comeback in Tuscaloosa. And no way does the 18 defense give up that many points to a one-legged Bo Wallace or allow that run in Oxford to happen. The 2014 defense for whatever reason was susceptible to the big play, but the 2018 defense gave up one all year.
All this assumes Mullen was the coach. Moorhead’s check with me BS would have ruined that offense too.
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Originally Posted by
RLM38654
A Natty?
We make the playoffs, but still lose to Bama. Mullen coaches tight in big games. And the team plays tight.
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Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
We make the playoffs, but still lose to Bama. Mullen coaches tight in big games. And the team plays tight.
Mullen had is issues w bama, yes, but he wasn't the tight one, that day. Dak was awful and Robinson trying to be a hero put us in the early mess.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Mullen had is issues w bama, yes, but he wasn't the tight one, that day. Dak was awful and Robinson trying to be a hero put us in the early mess.
Which I put on Mullen. He coached tight in every game after we went to #1.It just bit us in the Bama game.
He has the same issue with Florida vs UGA...
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Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
Which I put on Mullen. He coached tight in every game after we went to #1.It just bit us in the Bama game.
He has the same issue with Florida vs UGA...
And in the case of us vs bama for every year he was here and the two Cocktail party's he's coached the team w less talent. Considerably less in most cases. That probably has a lot to do w it.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
And in the case of us vs bama for every year he was here and the two Cocktail party's he's coached the team w less talent. Considerably less in most cases. That probably has a lot to do w it.
Mullen is so predictable in big games though. And, if he gets down early, he's toast. I've gone to the last 2 Cocktail Parties, sat with my UGA friends and called Danny's offense right about 75% of the time. I'd probably do better, but we start drinking at 8:00 AM and I'm usually pretty drunk during the first half.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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does this mythical season include a trip to Tuscaloosa?
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
does this mythical season include a trip to Tuscaloosa?
Mullen? Yes**. Moorehead? No.
**It also depends on the year.. 2014 we could have got in with one loss assuming we beat Bama and winning the whole thing. 2019 I don't think we beat Clemson.
Last edited by vv83; 07-30-2020 at 09:26 AM.
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Playoffs w/ Mullen, sure. But not a Natty.
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Is the HC Mullen or Moorehead
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the 15 offense and the 18 defense would've been unstoppable.
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Yes, if Grantham is the Defensive Coordinator and we don't do the 1a/1b BS.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Yes, if Grantham is the Defensive Coordinator and we don't do the 1a/1b BS.
So, we need the 2014 offense, the 2018 defense, the 2014 offensive coaching staff, and a mix of Grantham and Shoops defensive staffs for it to work.
Should we throw in Hud on staff just to make the fantasy complete for some fans?
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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