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Has UM at any point at any time been as low as 91st in recruiting?
I am not happy about the numbers in our class or the 41st ranking but for a school that really takes pride in recruiting they are not doing very well.
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Have no idea if they've ever been lower than 91st. What I'm wondering is why they're that low? Aren't the coaches Kiffin brought in known for being really good recruiters?
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I thought DJ Durkin was supposed to be a stud recruiter. That's the way he was made out to be.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I thought DJ Durkin was supposed to be a stud recruiter. That's the way he was made out to be.
Didn't he kill a player? Might be hurting him on the recruiting trail.
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Originally Posted by
Johnson85
Didn't he kill a player? Might be hurting him on the recruiting trail.
Yep, and a former strength staffer here at MSU under Mullen was the strength coach.
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Originally Posted by
ZedFedder
Yep, and a former strength staffer here at MSU under Mullen was the strength coach.
Yes, the player died on the strength coaches watch, his name was Rick Court and he always seemed a little nuts. I think he was the one that used log carrying and tractor tire flipping exercises in July. The player was collapsed after a workout and there was some time between that and when they called medical help, if I remember right. There were some other horrendous complaints against Durkin by his players. They suspended Durkin and then reinstated him after the public backlash. Sorry for the long winded post, I'm enjoying cocktails as I post! HAIL STATE!
Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Yes, the player died on the strength coaches watch, his name was Rick Court and he always seemed a little nuts. I think he was the one that used log carrying and tractor tire flipping exercises in July. The player was collapsed after a workout and there was some time between that and when they called medical help, if I remember right. There were some other horrendous complaints against Durkin by his players. They suspended Durkin and then reinstated him after the public backlash. Sorry for the long winded post, I'm enjoying cocktails as I post! HAIL STATE!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with tire flipping and light pole carrying.
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I suspect our class will be much better than 41 when it's all said and done.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I suspect our class will be much better than 41 when it's all said and done.
I don't think we will end up top 30. But 30-35 ish. In state is bad ranking wise.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't think we will end up top 30. But 30-35 ish. In state is bad ranking wise.
Agree.. the talent top to bottom in Miss is for sure down this year .. and all most all of the top players are WR / athletes.. not the normal DL and defensive side of the ball talent .. even the juco talent this year seems to be down
next year will be different
What is most encouraging is the amount of talent we have as of today from out of state.. if we keep that up and do what we normally do in years where the talent is better in Mississippi we might see some rankings in uncharted waters ...
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Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
Agree.. the talent top to bottom in Miss is for sure down this year .. and all most all of the top players are WR / athletes.. not the normal DL and defensive side of the ball talent .. even the juco talent this year seems to be down
next year will be different
What is most encouraging is the amount of talent we have as of today from out of state.. if we keep that up and do what we normally do in years where the talent is better in Mississippi we might see some rankings in uncharted waters ...
I like that we're filling needs from a positional standpoint better than we did under Dan.
I'd rather have a top 32 class with all of our needs met in some form or fashion than a top 25 class with gaps in it that come back to haunt us in three years.
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Neal is gonna have to chow down on a bucket full of crow....as he predicted them to have a top 10 class this year, lol. Even without COVID, which has impacted everyone, that prediction was batshit, even for a "non fan" such as him.
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I believed Kiffin would recruit well at UM. Does anyone think Kiffin has just lost interest? We have a long way to go, and he may pull a rabbit out of his hat, but ranked 91 at the end of July? Further, perhaps the following three words are hindering him: Ole. Miss. Rebels. Spinning that is a challenge for anyone.
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Originally Posted by
Dolphus Raymond
I believed Kiffin would recruit well at UM. Does anyone think Kiffin has just lost interest? We have a long way to go, and he may pull a rabbit out of his hat, but ranked 91 at the end of July? Further, perhaps the following three words are hindering him: Ole. Miss. Rebels. Spinning that is a challenge for anyone.
Kiffin has always been vastly overrated as a recruiting head coach. Gifted the one good class he signed at Tennessee, steadily regressed through four cycles at USC that should recruit top 10 classes in its sleep. He may be in over his head with the uphill battle recruiting at OM currently is.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
Kiffin has always been vastly overrated as a recruiting head coach. Gifted the one good class he signed at Tennessee, steadily regressed through four cycles at USC that should recruit top 10 classes in its sleep. He may be in over his head with the uphill battle recruiting at OM currently is.
I think a lot of his reputation is because Coach O was on his staff. C-USA recruiting rankings are pretty hit or miss and probably fairly inaccurate because the vast majority of those players are all going to be three stars or worse.
If he keeps recruiting like this his ass will be gone before Arch Manning's class comes up.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I think a lot of his reputation is because Coach O was on his staff. C-USA recruiting rankings are pretty hit or miss and probably fairly inaccurate because the vast majority of those players are all going to be three stars or worse.
If he keeps recruiting like this his ass will be gone before Arch Manning's class comes up.
Serious question, don’t you think OM will bring in a "special" Coach for new Manning like they did for Eli? Any thoughts or rumblings heard? I'm sure the network is already making plans.
Last edited by lastmajordog; 08-02-2020 at 05:51 AM.
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Originally Posted by
lastmajordog
Serious question, don’t you think OM will bring in a "special" Coach for new Manning like they did for Eli? Any thoughts or rumblings heard? I'm sure the network is already making plans.
Absolutely. But I don't know who their David Cutcliffe would be at this point. Part of the hope of hiring Kiffin I'm sure was that he could recruit well enough to bring in a good cast around Manning. We'll see how that goes.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
Kiffin has always been vastly overrated as a recruiting head coach. Gifted the one good class he signed at Tennessee, steadily regressed through four cycles at USC that should recruit top 10 classes in its sleep. He may be in over his head with the uphill battle recruiting at OM currently is.
Kiffin had Ed Orgeron at Tennessee and at first at USC before Ole Miss hired him away. Orgeron was named national recruiter of the year at USC, he was doing the recruiting that Kiffen gets credit for.
Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Kiffin had Ed Orgeron at Tennessee and at first at USC before Ole Miss hired him away. Orgeron was named national recruiter of the year at USC, he was doing the recruiting that Kiffen gets credit for.
I think Ole Miss hired Orgeron from Pete Carroll, because Ed O became interim USC coach after Kiffin fired at USC( at the airport)....but check me on that.
Doing the 3 degrees of Bacon sort of..... Ole Miss now has as head coach the guy that USC fired on the tarmac during the season, but Ole Miss fired their coach O who actually took over for Kiffin that season.
Good times Ole Miss. Good times coming indeed.
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Originally Posted by
Santiago
I think Ole Miss hired Orgeron from Pete Carroll, because Ed O became interim USC coach after Kiffin fired at USC( at the airport)....but check me on that.
Doing the 3 degrees of Bacon sort of..... Ole Miss now has as head coach the guy that USC fired on the tarmac during the season, but Ole Miss fired their coach O who actually took over for Kiffin that season.
Good times Ole Miss. Good times coming indeed.
You are correct. Kiffin took O to USC when he jilted Rocky Top. O was interim at USC after the Tarmac firing, and the players loved him. He went 6-1 in conference play and saved their season in '13.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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