Pac12 players threatening to boycott

[SheltonChoked]

It?s still an invalid argument. If I pay workers for room and board, that is a benefit to them. Same as players. Just like I pay for or partially pay for insurance, 401k matching, etc. How about we do this instead, we pay players X number of dollars but they have to pay for their own expenses. You know, housing, food, tuition, books, etc. Make it like the real world. The total value of 4-5 years football scholarship is worth 10, 20, 30 times (depending on school) what an internship or work study program is worth in actual dollar value.

No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

[Really Clark?]

No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

All athletes? You going to include tTitle IX in this? Do workers at a company create value? Yes, of course same as athletes but do they all have equal value? Absolutely not. Are players already compensated for their value already to the tune of $30,000-$70,000 per year depending on the school? You absolutely bet they are. You want to pay them a salary, fine, but you have to eliminate benefits as well to make the monies work. The corporation (school) takes a majority of the revenue generated by the most profitable company (football) and redistributes the revenue across all of the companies under that corporation to make the entire corporation stronger, to stay in compliance with federal mandates (Title IX) and to give opportunities to a more diverse workforce across the entire corporation(non-revenue sports). Not to mention that this whole plan is dependent on all of the corporations agreeing to continue profit share across all schools in a conference. What happens when the wealthiest schools decide, nope, we want our actual share that we earned. Does every conference have to pay players the same amount? Why shouldn’t the SEC get to pay more since it has more money at its disposal? Your example doesn’t work, it’s invalid. And a full compensated scholarship (which football players are the only ones who can get this much) is already compensation to them. What’s the number you think they deserve above what they are already given as a benefit? Haven’t seen you or anyone really put forth an actual salary they deserve and what will be eliminated to pay for it. Sucks for those athletes

[Maroonthirteen]

No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

The college brand is what creates value. If it was just the athletes that created the value, the xfl and every other minor league would have huge tv contracts as soon as the valuable player left college.

[SheltonChoked]

The college brand is what creates value. If it was just the athletes that created the value, the xfl and every other minor league would have huge tv contracts as soon as the valuable player left college.

So you watch sports without athletes?

And those examples pay players. If they could get them to play for free, they would be much more profitable

Interesting, tell me more....

[SheltonChoked]

All athletes? You going to include tTitle IX in this? Do workers at a company create value? Yes, of course same as athletes but do they all have equal value? Absolutely not. Are players already compensated for their value already to the tune of $30,000-$70,000 per year depending on the school? You absolutely bet they are. You want to pay them a salary, fine, but you have to eliminate benefits as well to make the monies work. The corporation (school) takes a majority of the revenue generated by the most profitable company (football) and redistributes the revenue across all of the companies under that corporation to make the entire corporation stronger, to stay in compliance with federal mandates (Title IX) and to give opportunities to a more diverse workforce across the entire corporation(non-revenue sports). Not to mention that this whole plan is dependent on all of the corporations agreeing to continue profit share across all schools in a conference. What happens when the wealthiest schools decide, nope, we want our actual share that we earned. Does every conference have to pay players the same amount? Why shouldn?t the SEC get to pay more since it has more money at its disposal? Your example doesn?t work, it?s invalid. And a full compensated scholarship (which football players are the only ones who can get this much) is already compensation to them. What?s the number you think they deserve above what they are already given as a benefit? Haven?t seen you or anyone really put forth an actual salary they deserve and what will be eliminated to pay for it. Sucks for those athletes

You ignored the question.

Do the athletes create value for sports?

You keep adding strawmen about "equal value". I never said that. Try to keep up.

I see your argument is they are already compensated for it, so if you have a kid that gets an academic scholarship that pays for his school, you'd be ok with him or her getting the athletic scholarship in cash?