Pac12 players threatening to boycott

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How many interns work for free for 4 years in your Billion dollar company?


At the one I am at, we pay the interns and they only work 6 months.

Internships are used for recruitment of high performing students to maybe eventually joining that company. It?s no different then recruiting a 4 or 5 star player, ie, paying them to sign that LOI.

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Internships are used for recruitment of high performing students to maybe eventually joining that company. It?s no different then recruiting a 4 or 5 star player, ie, paying them to sign that LOI.

And unpaid internships don't last 4-5 years. They last a college semester. And if the benefit of the internship is for the Employer, ( like say making millions of dollars of the labor of the intern), It's illegal.

That's the point.

[Really Clark?]

And unpaid internships don't last 4-5 years. They last a college semester. And if the benefit of the internship is for the Employer, ( like say making millions of dollars of the labor of the intern), It's illegal.

That's the point.

It’s an invalid point. The intern is also benefitting from learning in their field prior to having the degree and getting real world application experience. The company gets to see if the students aptitude will benefit both for a full time position when they graduate. But to your false logic of your example, then the 100 workers of a company who directly contribute to a company making $100 MIL deserve half of that income, no matter if they work clean up, assembly, manager, VP, etc.? That’s your example? Yeah that’s not anywhere in the realm of the galaxy illegal. Absurd example

[SheltonChoked]

It?s an invalid point. The intern is also benefitting from learning in their field prior to having the degree and getting real world application experience. The company gets to see if the students aptitude will benefit both for a full time position when they graduate. But to your false logic of your example, then the 100 workers of a company who directly contribute to a company making $100 MIL deserve half of that income, no matter if they work clean up, assembly, manager, VP, etc.? That?s your example? Yeah that?s not anywhere in the realm of the galaxy illegal. Absurd example

You benefit from "learning in your field" now or you are a shitty worker, do you get paid?

In your example, does the company pay their workers? Or do they work for room and board?

That's the argument sorry you missed it...

[Really Clark?]

You benefit from "learning in your field" now or you are a shitty worker, do you get paid?

In your example, does the company pay their workers? Or do they work for room and board?

That's the argument sorry you missed it...

It’s still an invalid argument. If I pay workers for room and board, that is a benefit to them. Same as players. Just like I pay for or partially pay for insurance, 401k matching, etc. How about we do this instead, we pay players X number of dollars but they have to pay for their own expenses. You know, housing, food, tuition, books, etc. Make it like the real world. The total value of 4-5 years football scholarship is worth 10, 20, 30 times (depending on school) what an internship or work study program is worth in actual dollar value.

[SheltonChoked]

It?s still an invalid argument. If I pay workers for room and board, that is a benefit to them. Same as players. Just like I pay for or partially pay for insurance, 401k matching, etc. How about we do this instead, we pay players X number of dollars but they have to pay for their own expenses. You know, housing, food, tuition, books, etc. Make it like the real world. The total value of 4-5 years football scholarship is worth 10, 20, 30 times (depending on school) what an internship or work study program is worth in actual dollar value.

No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

[Really Clark?]

No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

All athletes? You going to include tTitle IX in this? Do workers at a company create value? Yes, of course same as athletes but do they all have equal value? Absolutely not. Are players already compensated for their value already to the tune of $30,000-$70,000 per year depending on the school? You absolutely bet they are. You want to pay them a salary, fine, but you have to eliminate benefits as well to make the monies work. The corporation (school) takes a majority of the revenue generated by the most profitable company (football) and redistributes the revenue across all of the companies under that corporation to make the entire corporation stronger, to stay in compliance with federal mandates (Title IX) and to give opportunities to a more diverse workforce across the entire corporation(non-revenue sports). Not to mention that this whole plan is dependent on all of the corporations agreeing to continue profit share across all schools in a conference. What happens when the wealthiest schools decide, nope, we want our actual share that we earned. Does every conference have to pay players the same amount? Why shouldn’t the SEC get to pay more since it has more money at its disposal? Your example doesn’t work, it’s invalid. And a full compensated scholarship (which football players are the only ones who can get this much) is already compensation to them. What’s the number you think they deserve above what they are already given as a benefit? Haven’t seen you or anyone really put forth an actual salary they deserve and what will be eliminated to pay for it. Sucks for those athletes

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No it's not.

Do the athletes create value for college sports? Yes or no?

The college brand is what creates value. If it was just the athletes that created the value, the xfl and every other minor league would have huge tv contracts as soon as the valuable player left college.