Pac12 players threatening to boycott

[Maroonthirteen]

THey want revenue sharing. ...and other things.

https://247sports.com/Article/Pac-12...ate-149309979/


"Things they r asking 4 is 50/50 rev share, 6 yrs insurance upon graduation, better Covid-19 testing & protocols etc etc...The player led group is being spearheaded at Cal Football & they have been holding phone calls with other Pac12 teams..There is some kinda of players only meeting/vote that will be taking place shortly."

[ShotgunDawg]

What'll be interesting is how the left balances this stance with Title 9, since Title 9 is somewhat of a leftest policy.

Seems like an either/or. Either schools give revenue sharing to revenue producing sport's players & cut non revenue sports or schools continue to fund Title 9, which leaves very little money left over at 90% of schools.

I'm sure the coaching salaries at the Power 5 level will be cited, but in the grand scheme of things, those are only a small percentage of the total schools these policies would effect.

[Cooterpoot]

I'll sure miss watching midnight football*

[Jack Lambert]

I'll sure miss watching midnight football*

that's freaking funny. However I have watch the second half of some PAC 12 games when I got back later from Straville.

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

I'll sure miss watching midnight football*

The reason I watched midnight Pac-12 football is now the coach at MSU.

[Dawgology]

Good for them. I hope this catches on all over so that we can finally create a minor league and let these guys go there and get college sports back to the amateur status they are supposed to be.

[Maroonthirteen]

Good for them. I hope this catches on all over so that we can finally create a minor league and let these guys go there and get college sports back to the amateur status they are supposed to be.

I agree. Form a nfl minor league and be done with it. I'll be just fine watching a bunch of 4.8-5.2/40 guys.

[Dawgology]

I agree. Form a nfl minor league and be done with it. I'll be just fine watching a bunch of 4.8-5.2/40 guys.

Plus they can stagger the NFL minor league to run May - August to get us through the sports dry spell. You could do an age limit also: 18-25 year old age group or something.

[maroonmania]

I agree. Form a nfl minor league and be done with it. I'll be just fine watching a bunch of 4.8-5.2/40 guys.

This is what we need so we can actually have student athletes again playing college football and college basketball. This free minor league that the NFL and NBA gets through the colleges is starting to cause a major issue as more and more want players to get a piece of the pie of the money generated in college football and basketball. Of course if they do that you can pretty much shut all other college sports down. No matter what you give these players they will never be satisfied because they don't think of themselves as amateurs even though they are. Its really not the colleges that are using their money, its the NFL and NBA by avoiding a minor league payroll. The colleges are compensating players 10's of thousands of dollars per year through tuition, room and board plus a stipend but a lot of the players aren't that interested in the education they are getting for free anyway.

[R2Dawg]

Good for them. I hope this catches on all over so that we can finally create a minor league and let these guys go there and get college sports back to the amateur status they are supposed to be.

Yep, I'm with you. Sick and tired of this junk. How soon can they leave?

[BB30]

So will joe blow walk on get his cut as well? Or would it only be for scholarship players? If so, I believe you'll see a pile of new walk ons in the coming years*

[ShotgunDawg]

It's a pretty simple solution.

The NFL has absolutely zero interest in starting a minor league system and other football leagues have all failed.

If players strike for pay, then let them boycott and just find willing D2 or JUCO players that want to play in the SEC while the D1 players sit and don't do anything while losing their scholarships.

The players have ZERO leverage to this. They just don't. Until another viable league that can compete with the NCAA comes into existence and actually makes enough money to pay players, then the players don't have any leverage.

Just let them strike. They'll only be hurting their own career. Not college football.

[Political Hack]

It's a pretty simple solution.

The NFL has absolutely zero interest in starting a minor league system and other football leagues have all failed.

If players strike for pay, then let them boycott and just find willing D2 or JUCO players that want to play in the SEC while the D1 players sit and don't do anything while losing their scholarships.

The players have ZERO leverage to this. They just don't. Until another viable league that can compete with the NCAA comes into existence and actually makes enough money to pay players, then the players don't have any leverage.

Just let them strike. They'll only be hurting their own career. Not college football.

I think that's the same argument slave owners used.

[BB30]

I think that's the same argument slave owners used.

Comparing this to the slave trade is a bit drastic don't you think? It isn't like slaves had the option of just walking off the job. Slaves didn't have any choices in the decisions that were made for them.

These kids do have choices- go to college for free and get a stipend on top that covers your every day expenses. Or don't go and take your own route to the NFL.

I mean they are getting a full college education that will set them up for a good job once they graduate along with enough in stipends to get food/go on dates etc. 99% of these guys will never sniff an NFL field and would be needing a regular job down the road anyway. So college is putting those players in a much better position than they would otherwise be in.

I'm not completely opposed to paying them but it will complicate a lot of things.

How do you handle title 9? Most womens sports are funded through the revenue sports.
How much does each player get? Does the 4th string walk on make what the star QB makes?
Is it open season in recruiting? Where basically the player can take the best contract offer at time of recruitment? If you transfer what happens to those contracts that have already been signed or would this do away with transferring?

Those are just for starters. There is a pile of other things that would have to be considered.

[TUSK]

I think that's the same argument slave owners used.

Wow.

[Political Hack]

Wow.

"Slaves had zero leverage, so why listen to them?" That's the exact same argument presented in the post.

[Todd4State]

I think that's the same argument slave owners used.

Real slavery is being on government assistance totally.

Getting a free education at the school of your choice within reason and having a chance to better yourself and make millions? I wish I was a slave if that's your definition of slavery.

[Political Hack]

Real slavery is being on government assistance totally.

Getting a free education at the school of your choice within reason and having a chance to better yourself and make millions? I wish I was a slave if that's your definition of slavery.

I didn't compare it to slavery. People need to read more clearly. I said the argument that "the players don't have any leverage so don't listen to them" is an oppressive perspective that was used in the past to protect the institution of slavery. That can't be denied. It's just a factual comment. I did not compare college football to the system of slavery, but I did compare it to wndentured servitude.

And yes, just because guys are rock stars and have it better than the normal student doesn't mean they shouldn't have a piece of the pie that they're risking their necks for. Coaches are making millions. Ath Dir's. Sponsors. ESPN. The conferences. The bowls. The cities. The universities. Everybody. Except the guys performing are ALLOWED to earn a piece of the pie. It's as UnAmerican of a concept as there's ever been. Give the guys a slice of the pie.

[DownwardDawg]

I didn't compare it to slavery. People need to read more clearly. I said the argument that "the players don't have any leverage so don't listen to them" is an oppressive perspective that was used in the past to protect the institution of slavery. That can't be denied. It's just a factual comment. I did not compare college football to the system of slavery, but I did compare it to wndentured servitude.

And yes, just because guys are rock stars and have it better than the normal student doesn't mean they shouldn't have a piece of the pie that they're risking their necks for. Coaches are making millions. Ath Dir's. Sponsors. ESPN. The conferences. The bowls. The cities. The universities. Everybody. Except the guys performing are ALLOWED to earn a piece of the pie. It's as UnAmerican of a concept as there's ever been. Give the guys a slice of the pie.

$100,000 in education and getting to be treated like rockstar for 4 years, that’s getting a giant slice of the pie. College football players are the most “privileged “ people in America.

[Extendedcab]

I didn't compare it to slavery. People need to read more clearly. I said the argument that "the players don't have any leverage so don't listen to them" is an oppressive perspective that was used in the past to protect the institution of slavery. That can't be denied. It's just a factual comment. I did not compare college football to the system of slavery, but I did compare it to wndentured servitude.

And yes, just because guys are rock stars and have it better than the normal student doesn't mean they shouldn't have a piece of the pie that they're risking their necks for. Coaches are making millions. Ath Dir's. Sponsors. ESPN. The conferences. The bowls. The cities. The universities. Everybody. Except the guys performing are ALLOWED to earn a piece of the pie. It's as UnAmerican of a concept as there's ever been. Give the guys a slice of the pie.

Thats insane! They are getting paid - FREE EDUCATION plus other perks! Read other posts from people that received those perks in the past.