Just a little info

[basedog]

I know Msu baseball players reported to school and have started some workout programs. All are being tested and monitored closely, fact is so close that one player tested positive and of course has no symptoms nor feeling bad. He along with 5 other players are sent home for 14 days of quarantine. Those guys didn't have the virus, I know one is really disappointed about being sent home. Just when workouts with only a few at a time and some induvial one on one workouts just got started.
I think the time away for many players the last few months is good, I say this only because many only play baseball all year round. Hopefully those players will be ok and get back in the groove. Probably others will be sent home with same situation.

It's what I think, no way will football be played at Msu or Sec schools, I hope we get to see some football, but the domino's are falling into place. It's hard to understand for me how one can have a virus and have no symptoms and doesn't feel bad and be declared sick. Oh I know folks are saying they can spread the "virus", I just don't trust all the things I read from "mad scientist, politicians" or media folks. JMO!

My take, "proceed with cautious".

[Lord McBuckethead]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

[Really Clark?]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

I disagree with that, you are presenting that you will catch it if you come in contact with it but many have known contact and tested negative, that’s a false statement. Then there are millions who have tested positive with no symptoms. Literally the same as any other virus, we just don’t test when people are asymptomatic for those. Maybe you meant that differently in your mind but on the surface, that’s a false statement.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

This is actually FALSE. I've came in contact with it twice and have been tested twice and was negative both times. And those are the facts.

[RogerWilco]

This is actually FALSE. I've come in contact with it twice and have been tested twice and was negative both times. And those are the facts.

I work in a building on campus with students and have been in close contact (no way to social distance and do my job) with 3 people who have had it over the last several weeks. With mask wearing, hand washing, and trying to distance when I can I have yet to come down with illness.

Now I'm not running over to my parent's house anytime soon and had to FaceTime my dad on his birthday Sunday, but I don't think it is nearly as contagious as it has been made out to be. Just don't be a jackwagon and think you are exceptional and don't need to follow the basic rules...like the 50 undergrads at a party next door to my house 2 weeks ago.

[Lord McBuckethead]

This is actually FALSE. I've came in contact with it twice and have been tested twice and was negative both times. And those are the facts.

Then you didn't come in contact with the virus. You may have had contact with a person that had it, but that doesn't necessarily mean you took in the virus into your body.

If the virus gets into your body and enters one of your cells, (aka "contact") then you will have it. That is until it has been proven that some people have a natural immunity, which as of today no example of natural immunity has been proven.

So, fact is, your body does not have the capability of killing this thing on sight. If it gets to you, you will get it. Period.

[Really Clark?]

Then you didn't come in contact with the virus. You may have had contact with a person that had it, but that doesn't necessarily mean you took in the virus into your body.

If the virus gets into your body and enters one of your cells, (aka "contact") then you will have it. That is until it has been proven that some people have a natural immunity, which as of today no example of natural immunity has been proven.

So, fact is, your body does not have the capability of killing this thing on sight. If it gets to you, you will get it. Period.

You are confusing contact with the virus and contracting the virus. Thats two separate things. You can most definitely have contact with someone or an object with the virus but not contract the virus yourself. Going by your hypothesis, then the coronavirus would have the largest R0 in history and that’s not true, it’s not even close to highest rate. Chickenpox is 3-4 times higher in infection rate for example.

[Lord McBuckethead]

You are confusing contact with the virus and contracting the virus. Thats two separate things. You can most definitely have contact with someone or an object with the virus but not contract the virus yourself. Going by your hypothesis, then the coronavirus would have the largest R0 in history and that’s not true, it’s not even close to highest rate. Chickenpox is 3-4 times higher in infection rate for example.

Well 17 me. Damn it people, I am not a syth lord that deals in absolutes. So yeah, you can walk past a person with the virus and not immediately light on fire.
Maybe if we all treated the virus with this level of respect, we might be actually seriously talking about football this year and fall semester school. It is the downplaying it from the get go that has our numbers where they are.

I have said from day 1 of this thing, if we do not take every single possible precaution within reason, we are not having football. If we did have football, it would not be with fans in the stands as we did last year.

No one can argue with the absolute best way not to get this thing is to distance.
2nd best way not to get it is wear a mask if you can't distance.
3rd best thing is to constantly wash your hands.

Point taken, you can be in contact with someone and not immediately get it. But there is a serious risk if you are in contact with someone. Not like Measles bad, but pretty bad.

[Johnson85]

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

[StarkVegasSteve]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

THANK YOU

[TStationDawg]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

This. Times. 1 million!. THANK YOU! Damn Straight- and this is from a 43 year old! AND YES TurfDawg, ANOTHER one of these threads! In case you haven't noticed, we're KINDA in the middle of life changing "big deal", so multplie threads discussing it, its worthwhile. I've had 2 employees come down with it- and another lost their 17 year old sister to it in the span of 3 days. Don't trivialize it. Its real and affecting people in real life!

[MadDawg]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

Great post that will piss off a lot of people.

[DownwardDawg]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

Damn. Outstanding post.

[Todd4State]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

I applaud this post.

[Lord McBuckethead]

People are mighty selective about who needs to sacrifice though. THey want their amazon and takeout food and creature comforts. They want young people (who are significantly over represented among "essential" workers) to sacrifice and risk exposure for their creature comforts, but if young people want to enjoy their life after being exposed all day providing for more risk averse people, then it's the young people that are being selfish somehow. Or if the young people want schools open so that they don't have to spend half their paycheck on childcare, or even just for their kids to get to socialize with other kids and not give up two years of their childhood when they have virtually zero risk themselves, that's them being selfish.

Odd how that works out. From the outside looking in, it sure looks like the people that want everyone else to sacrifice for them, and for the sacrifice to only go one way, are being selfish. But all the "smart" people assure me the poor schmuck stocking grocery store shelves and wanting his kid to play tball and go to elementary school is basically a murderer, and the affluent guy in his 40's or 50's who gets to work remotely and have his food and groceries delivered and still get together in the same size social groups as he did before for drinks or dinner, all while being borderline diabetic b/c of the extra pounds he is carrying, that guy is just selfless.

Look bub, when you socially distance yourself, wear a mask, and wash your hands you protect people that are delivering Amazon, delivering food, going to work their factory job, etc. For instance, my mom works in a factory with 350 people on her shift. 350 people on the shift before hers. Her company, (canadian based) has taken every precaution to limit contact and change their entire operation procedures to make it as safe as it can be. They all wear masks, have like 50 hand washing stations, sanitation protocols, etc. Their plant is doing a great job and really hasn't missed a beat.

Grocery stores can limit shopping hours for restocking without customers.

Amazon as well have instituted protocols to limit interaction in the distribution centers.

It is every single company, every single employee, every single customer, every single subcontractors responsibility to do their part to limit the spread to the best of their ability. If you want to have a get together with a small group of people, fine. The risk is there, but it is a controlled situation. Literally every single person in this entire country can sacrifice and wear a mask, keep your distance, limit your trips out in public, and wash your hands. It is so, so, so 17n simple. It does not eliminate 100% of the risk, but it is the only thing we can do and do very easily.

To not do those things is total horseshit for those folks that are working the jobs you mentioned. We need to do our best, so they can continue to do their work.

[Dawgology]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

Yeah...this isn?t true. My best friends wife had it about 3 months ago. He ****ed the hell out of her a day before she tested because a co-worker had it. She tested positive. She continued to test positive for 2 months. She barely had the sniffles. Their four kids stayed with her because he works out of town. Neither he nor the children ever tested positive for covid and they were tested every week.

We need to be careful. Masks will help but this isn?t the end of the world the way some of you are making it out to be...it?s just not. We need to keep those that are aged and/or immuno-compromised safe. Everyone else needs to get the **** back to work and life.

[Joebob]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[KB21]

Not really sure what to address here or if anything needs to be addressed.
Listen to the scientist. This isnwhat they do. Just because someone isn't showing symptoms does not mean they are not a threat to the next person. The next person could literally die if they come in contact with this player. Right now there is no way to know. Covid, as far as any of us know, has presented symptoms with a wide array of effects. Some people do not even get a cough, others sit dormant for 2 weeks and then have to be put in a medically induced coma. The scientist are working to gain a working knowledge of this virus, but that takes time and early assumptions are constantly getting proven and disproven as we get deeper in this. So please, I beg everyone, wear a mask, stay away from other people, and wash your hands. Those are the three best ways to limit the spread. Unless you have had this already, no one has immunity to it. No ones immune system has what it needs to stop it. If you come in contact with it, you will get it. Those are all facts. Do not let the constant noise convince you itherwise.

Pandemics are special circumstances. We all are going to have to sacrifice for our fellow neighbor. That is American. That is Christian. That is the spirit in which MS has operated for my entire life. The hospitality state should be ready to get uncomfortable if it means we slow this virus down.

I see this virus everyday that I'm at work (urgent care doc) and have for the past 5 months (actually longer, since this thing was here in November and December as well). I haven't caught it, and no one in my household has gotten sick. Knock on wood. There has only been one in my clinic that has come down with a positive test, and her only symptom was anosmia.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know Msu baseball players reported to school and have started some workout programs. All are being tested and monitored closely, fact is so close that one player tested positive and of course has no symptoms nor feeling bad. He along with 5 other players are sent home for 14 days of quarantine. Those guys didn't have the virus, I know one is really disappointed about being sent home. Just when workouts with only a few at a time and some induvial one on one workouts just got started.
I think the time away for many players the last few months is good, I say this only because many only play baseball all year round. Hopefully those players will be ok and get back in the groove. Probably others will be sent home with same situation.

It's what I think, no way will football be played at Msu or Sec schools, I hope we get to see some football, but the domino's are falling into place. It's hard to understand for me how one can have a virus and have no symptoms and doesn't feel bad and be declared sick. Oh I know folks are saying they can spread the "virus", I just don't trust all the things I read from "mad scientist, politicians" or media folks. JMO!

My take, "proceed with cautious".

I agree with you 100% but it just boils down to being a liability thing and the fear and hysteria the media has caused. 95% of these athletes are in the top 1% of the 18-29 year old age range that has little trouble, if any at all, with this virus. I mean these guys are in the best shape possible. They're not sitting around doing nothing and eating Twinkies. But because of the fear mongering and hysteria caused by a few, every case is treated like a death sentence. Almost all the cases I've heard about from athletic programs have been asymptomatic and they wouldn't even know they had it had they not been tested. I'm less and less confident by the day that we see college football in any form in 2020.

[basedog]

Plus so many false test either not really testing results and inaccuracy. Who or what to believe is "each their own".