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06-22-2020, 09:50 PM
#141
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
So....being against the MS flag and the confederacy is now....Communist?
I was referring to the communist revolution that's been happening from coast to coast for the past few weeks. The state flag should already be history, but was not an issue being discussed until Sankey's dumbass made his statement.
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06-22-2020, 09:53 PM
#142
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.
Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.
Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.
A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.
Marks is from GA. GA has a confederate emblem on their flag. He is not acting like that. Marks is hungry and not a twitter warrior. Marks is more than capable of playing and was gonna play whether 8 takes a snap or not. The on field part of that is secondary to me. And what am I threatening? Kylin is the only one threatening anything. Threaten or not Marks is going to push Kylin. Do not go down that road. Take that up with Leach. My opinion means jack at the end of the day.
I never said Kylin should shut up and play. I said Kylin should grow up and stop acting like a drama queen. He is a proven prima Donna. On and off the field. You do not walk out on your teammates and family over something like this. You cannot get on twitter and say Mullen mindset then threaten to abandon them a few weeks later.
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06-22-2020, 09:54 PM
#143
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.
Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.
Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.
A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.
You need to work on your reading comprehension
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06-22-2020, 09:56 PM
#144
Originally Posted by
Cowbell
You need to work on your reading comprehension
Sounds great. Enlighten me
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06-22-2020, 09:57 PM
#145
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Marks is from GA. GA has a confederate emblem on their flag. He is not acting like that. Marks is hungry and not a twitter warrior. Marks is more than capable of playing and was gonna play whether 8 takes a snap or not. The on field part of that is secondary to me. And what am I threatening? Kylin is the only one threatening anything. Threaten or not Marks is going to push Kylin. Do not go down that road. Take that up with Leach. My opinion means jack at the end of the day.
I never said Kylin should shut up and play. I said Kylin should grow up and stop acting like a drama queen. He is a proven prima Donna. On and off the field. You do not walk out on your teammates and family over something like this. You cannot get on twitter and say Mullen mindset then threaten to abandon them a few weeks later.
Oh... Snap!
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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06-22-2020, 10:00 PM
#146
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Good news is that Kylin Hill just in the Heisman race tonight.
You know damn well the media types are going to eat him up if he has a good year
Best case scenario: Kylin runs for 1,000, catches for 1,000, is present at the official unveiling of the new flag, maybe puts it up the flagpole himself at DWS, and then wins the Heisman in December in the biggest blowout over.
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06-22-2020, 10:01 PM
#147
Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
This fan base, especially this board, is completely intolerant of others views. I sit down and eat lunch with my black friends and black co-workers and we can’t help but discuss some of the things going on in our country. We have very civil conversations and respect each other even when we don’t agree on several things. That’s not allowed here. Hell, it doesn’t seem allowed anywhere hardly.
There are no discussions on here or other state sites. The lack of sports leads to posts on the topic of the day. And if you disagree one percent from the groupthink, you are called the vilest of names. MetEd said if you disagree with Kylin's stance, you're a racist. How about the many times he said he wanted to leave MSU? Whst does that categorize me when I disagree?
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06-22-2020, 10:01 PM
#148
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Sounds great. Enlighten me
Read through Buckys post and read your response. You are putting words in his mouth and changing the narrative. You are metEd - you should be smart enough to not need my enlightenment.
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06-22-2020, 10:02 PM
#149
Originally Posted by
Bothrops
I was referring to the communist revolution that's been happening from coast to coast for the past few weeks. The state flag should already be history, but was not an issue being discussed until Sankey's dumbass made his statement.
That's clearly false. Yes, the SEC/NCAA rules raised the level of conversation, but people have been discussing it all month, including at the Capitol.
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06-22-2020, 10:04 PM
#150
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Marks isn't from Mississippi. Kylin Hill is. Threatening on a message board that Marks is ready to take his snaps is literally stupid. Plain stupidity.
Your entire last paragraph represents why this is an issue. You say football is supposed to leave it all behind. It only does that for people that need a break from the uncomfortable things going on that these kids can change outside of football. You and others don't want to deal with it. You want kids like Kylin to shut up and just play football because that fits your interests more than his. And that's wrong.
Kylin deserves to have a voice as does everyone. But I think a lot of people are realizing for maybe the first time that they don't have a good understanding as to how others feel about this. That flag has been a very casual reminder of inequality and slavery for a long time. And because it's all some people know, it offends them that someone might want to make a change.
A very large portion of the MSU family is standing with Kylin. And you may very quickly find yourself in the minority on this issue. And maybe that will give you a moment to glimpse at how others in the minority of situations feel.
My interests? Football is my life. Therefore the kids are my life (regardless of color) in one way or the other. They all know I would do anything for them and they have my number whenever they need it. I give all
of them the same ride home when they need it and the same chewing when they slack. And I would never tell them to shut up and play. But I would hold them accountable to their teammates and to themselves. That is what needs to be brought up. Kylin is a me guy. Like
I said, he can be great and help us but so far Kylin has only helped us when Kylin felt like helping us. When the cameras are on him he is either sky high or dirt low. It is for attention. I got very tired of that.
Hopefully he is the best leader on the team, I am not calling him a lowlife and that we should cut him. I am just stating fact and giving you my perspective of it
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06-22-2020, 10:05 PM
#151
Originally Posted by
bobcat91
There are no discussions on here or other state sites. The lack of sports leads to posts on the topic of the day. And if you disagree one percent from the groupthink, you are called the vilest of names. MetEd said if you disagree with Kylin's stance, you're a racist. How about the many times he said he wanted to leave MSU? Whst does that categorize me when I disagree?
I definitely didn't say if you disagree with Kylin you are a racist. But I think there it's obvious are some racial undertones to some of the posts in this thread. That to me is undeniable.
But disagreeing with someone doesn't make you a racist. And I never said that. Like I said. Lived in the south my entire life. Conservative through and through. But that doesn't mean I have to cross the line of telling a kid like Kylin how he's supposed to react. I think it's rich you said I called folks racist for disagreeing with Kylin though.
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06-22-2020, 10:10 PM
#152
Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Kylin and any other player can go 17 themselves if they can't put aside their feelings and play football. We're rebuilding and will struggle to win 6 anyway, so I don't give a single damn if Hill, Murphy or any other Woke Snowflake doesn't play for the maybe 1-2 extra wins they'll give us. The Woke Cancel Culture is out of control. Not only will we have to put up with these useful idiots kneeling and disrespecting the U.S. flag this fall, now we have to put up with them threatening to not play. Because we all know that's really going to make the Landshart controlled legislature act faster.**** Virtue signaling at its most idiotic, but this is what you get when you educate multiple generations of Americans and tell them how shit & "racist" this country is, regardless of the actual facts.
Best post in this shitshow of a thread.
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06-22-2020, 10:12 PM
#153
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
My interests? Football is my life. Therefore the kids are my life (regardless of color) in one way or the other. They all know I would do anything for them and they have my number whenever they need it. I give all
of them the same ride home when they need it and the same chewing when they slack. And I would never tell them to shut up and play. But I would hold them accountable to their teammates and to themselves. That is what needs to be brought up. Kylin is a me guy. Like
I said, he can be great and help us but so far Kylin has only helped us when Kylin felt like helping us. When the cameras are on him he is either sky high or dirt low. It is for attention. I got very tired of that.
Hopefully he is the best leader on the team, I am not calling him a lowlife and that we should cut him. I am just stating fact and giving you my perspective of it
Would you have said something different to this if Elgton Jenkins had been the one to say this? Or Fletcher Cox?
I'm a teacher and an administrator. So we aren't that dissimilar. I would run through walls for my kids. I've been there for them and told them they need to persevere. And you are right. One man is not bigger than the team. But there are certain societal ideals that are bigger than football. Race and the perception of racial injustice is one of those. It's an issue and it's not going away. Kid is trying to advocate for a little progress and change. I applaud him for that.
My big question is did he clearance to do this. I think that's the real question worth asking. Did he do it himself or did the university give him the ok?
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06-22-2020, 10:15 PM
#154
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Would you have said something different to this if Elgton Jenkins had been the one to say this? Or Fletcher Cox?
I'm a teacher and an administrator. So we aren't that dissimilar. I would run through walls for my kids. I've been there for them and told them they need to persevere. And you are right. One man is not bigger than the team. But there are certain societal ideals that are bigger than football. Race and the perception of racial injustice is one of those. It's an issue and it's not going away. Kid is trying to advocate for a little progress and change. I applaud him for that.
My big question is did he clearance to do this. I think that's the real question worth asking. Did he do it himself or did the university give him the ok?
I would absolutely feel differently about this if it came from a kid I knew was all in and not about himself. Marcus Murphy is a good example like I said. Murphy is a great kid and has dealt with more than I have in my life in his family. Kylin has a track record of being a Twitter all star and making everything about Kylin
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06-22-2020, 10:16 PM
#155
Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
That's clearly false. Yes, the SEC/NCAA rules raised the level of conversation, but people have been discussing it all month, including at the Capitol.
Issue was not being discussed in the world of Mississippi sports is what I meant. In the past, yes, but not of late until Sankey reminded everyone, and hurt Mississippi schools despite their stance on the issue.
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06-22-2020, 10:18 PM
#156
Originally Posted by
Bothrops
There's a communist revolution going on. They are making the rules.
This. And the smarmy know it alls continue to smugly dismiss any concern over it. I have no doubt Quoaras and Shelton would assist in snitching on their fellow citizens to the BLM police for wrong think.
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06-22-2020, 10:21 PM
#157
Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
So....being against the MS flag and the confederacy is now....Communist?
Most southerners fought because an army was headed their way. I'm for the flag because they (the modern communists) are against it, simple as that.
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06-22-2020, 10:26 PM
#158
Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I definitely didn't say if you disagree with Kylin you are a racist. But I think there it's obvious are some racial undertones to some of the posts in this thread. That to me is undeniable.
But disagreeing with someone doesn't make you a racist. And I never said that. Like I said. Lived in the south my entire life. Conservative through and through. But that doesn't mean I have to cross the line of telling a kid like Kylin how he's supposed to react. I think it's rich you said I called folks racist for disagreeing with Kylin though.
Maybe you see things differently. I know one color, and that's maroon. I will react the same way no matter who it is, but if you do anything to harm my school, I give you no benefit of the doubt. And he has repeatedly called his loyalty to MSU into account. I will never defend that. He has the same right to express himself as you and I do. If he brings harm to MSU, I'm going after him and dont give a damn over whether it's the flag he suddenly decided had to go after not saying a word about it for 3 years, or any other issue. You said he had balls to do this. I say he leads from behind and guys like that are a dime a dozen.
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06-22-2020, 10:30 PM
#159
Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
I don't disagree with that. But you and I both know our legislature is too nutless to do anything about it. It should be a no-brainer to change it back to the Magnolia Flag, something that is unique to Mississippi and looks good. The Stennis flag is ok, but it's just another generic star flag to me. Unfortunately, you could fit all the gonads at the capitol into a thimble and probably have room to spare. So yeah, it's useless virtue signaling from a useful idiot who hasn't had a problem playing for this state the last 3 years. Only when the Woke Mob agitates is it an issue.
Rep Given!
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06-22-2020, 10:32 PM
#160
Originally Posted by
bobcat91
Maybe you see things differently. I know one color, and that's maroon. I will react the same way no matter who it is, but if you do anything to harm my school, I give you no benefit of the doubt. And he has repeatedly called his loyalty to MSU into account. I will never defend that. He has the same right to express himself as you and I do. If he brings harm to MSU, I'm going after him and dont give a damn over whether it's the flag he suddenly decided had to go after not saying a word about it for 3 years, or any other issue. You said he had balls to do this. I say he leads from behind and guys like that are a dime a dozen.
Bleeding only maroon is ultimately the issue. That's NOT the only color. It's not the only experience. And you can feel that way. But when there are folks at his own school telling him he can go to hell, go f himself, or go to a HBCU, then yes, I would say that takes a lot of balls.
There's a lot of grown men on this board that wouldn't be able to handle that. Bringing harm to MSU because he threatens to not play one season of football? Seems a tad overkill to call it that when discussing larger societal impacts like this one
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