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    I am for changing the flag, which was adopted to show that whites were back in complete control and to memorialize the confederacy.

    I am for keeping the but of the first President of our school, despite whatever flaws he may have had. He was one of the first to bring what was called "industrial education" to the south.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I gotta admit, I don't care one way or another on this one.

    I couldn't care less about Lee
    Did you know Lee? Did you ever go to MSU, just curious? Your connection to MSU sounds weak at best.

    This is another example of there will be no end to the insanity. Lee needs to stay, first MSU president and one of iconic features on campus with such history at MSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdGen View Post
    I would bet that most of these people think it?s Robert E Lee.*
    bingo likely a winner, now that made me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDawg View Post
    Not a new development, but there is undeniably a new rabidness/energy in the activism, depending on whose ox is being gored.
    Exactly! Yale was named after a Slave Dealerwho contributed to start the school. When they rename Yale, then come talk to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    So you think Jesus, who was a middle eastern Jew during the times of the Roman Empire, should be portrayed as white european male with light brown hair and blue eyes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstatelp1 View Post
    So you think Jesus, who was a middle eastern Jew during the times of the Roman Empire, should be portrayed as white european male with light brown hair and blue eyes?
    Slippery slope to go down. Never tear down a statue of Jesus regardless of what color it is. I think most people are smart enough to know he would be middle eastern looking but there are white, brown, and very black depictions of Him. Leave them all alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I gotta admit, I don't care one way or another on this one.

    I couldn't care less about Lee
    Come on Gun, they are literally trying to rewrite history and obscure the fact these people lived and other non popular (today anyway) events ever happened. If you don't learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it failures. The statue is to honor MSUs first president not the fact he was a senior officer of the Confederate States Army in the Eastern and Western theaters of the American Civil War.

    There is a difference and the WOKE movement does not see it or is blind to the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicDawg View Post
    FWIW, I support changing the flag. I don't support removing the statue of S.D. Lee. I do support putting up a statue of Holmes somewhere around the Drill Field. Maybe near the Union?
    FWIW, remove the CSA reference on the plaque. No need to remove his statue. We can celebrate him as our first president in his time after the war, without celebrating his fighting to preserve slavery.

    The man was our first president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    Slippery slope to go down. Never tear down a statue of Jesus regardless of what color it is. I think most people are smart enough to know he would be middle eastern looking but there are white, brown, and very black depictions of Him. Leave them all alone.
    This! folks don't need to go down that road. Best just to let this be. The Savior is represented in statues and paintings by what people view him as. People need to worship him as how they see fit. It stinks we even have to have a reason to have a discussion about this. What is happening to rational thought in this country? So freaking sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    This! folks don't need to go down that road. Best just to let this be. The Savior is represented in statues and paintings by what people view him as. People need to worship him as how they see fit. It stinks we even have to have a reason to have a discussion about this. What is happening to rational thought in this country? So freaking sad.
    I agree CC, Some of these folks better make sure their insurance has lightning protection and that it is up to date.
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    This petition wants a statue of this Dr. Holmes because he was the first black student? Hell, do I get a statue, I was a student.
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    This Dr. Holmes fellow started school in Texas and did his post graduate in Michigan. Hell, he was only passing through at MSU.
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    He actually came back to MSU and was semi retired working at the student health center. I saw him a couple of times as my doctor when I was a student.

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    I am too old to remember that Dr. Long was the doc when I was there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstatelp1 View Post
    So you think Jesus, who was a middle eastern Jew during the times of the Roman Empire, should be portrayed as white european male with light brown hair and blue eyes?
    I believe in the seperation of church and state (one of the ideals that this country was founded on) and that ALL people should be allowed to celebrate and practice thier religion as they see fit (as long as it physically harms no one). If white churches want a white Jesus then go for it. If black churches want a black Jesus then go for it. I mean...both depictions are equally incorrect but if it helps them connect with God then go for it. The government and/or courts have absolutely no business manadating anything about how a religion is practiced.

    Though I don't agree with everything the modern church does but I will defend that right with my dying breath like my forefathers before me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    This petition wants a statue of this Dr. Holmes because he was the first black student? Hell, do I get a statue, I was a student.
    I have it on good authority I was one of the most eligible bachelors while at State. I think a statue of me in the drill field would be fitting. Just for the ladies to come marvel at. It'll give them something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex54 View Post
    Jesus probably had a pretty good tan.

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