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    With the additions at QB and now at WR- our Offense has a chance to be really decent. But we just simply won’t be very good on D. There is no hiding that
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Schwartz was their 2nd leading receiver last year in catches and yards though. Weird our lads doesn't have him starting.

    I think our oline (assuming they can transition into heavy pass protection) is better on paper.

    I think Costello is better on paper.

    We're better on paper at rb.
    How are we off paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    With the additions at QB and now at WR- our Offense has a chance to be really decent. But we just simply won’t be very good on D. There is no hiding that
    We'll have to take some chances for sure. Worst thing we can do is just let people ram it down our throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    It going to boil down to 1 thing - can our guys pick up the new offense and defense in 6 weeks of camp and the first 4 games of the season. We have the talent to win those first 4, but will we have the knowledge and comfort within the systems to do it?
    If we can, we are going to be hell come October
    The offense itself is not hard to learn. It will be more difficult for us bc we have never done it but if they are all in they will have it down pretty early. It will be the toughest on the OL. They will do more quick setting and vertical setting than they have ever done. The defense will be the biggest learning curve but for the most part except for CB we are playing with guys who have at least been around a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why isn't Schwartz listed? He was really good as a freshman. Auburn's WRs are head and shoulders above ours imo.
    Auburn can?t throw the ball
    Remember that before you brag on their WRs. It wasn?t all on Nix

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    It going to boil down to 1 thing - can our guys pick up the new offense and defense in 6 weeks of camp and the first 4 games of the season. We have the talent to win those first 4, but will we have the knowledge and comfort within the systems to do it?
    If we can, we are going to be hell come October
    If our defense is half ass good, Arnett will be worth more than what he's making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    With the additions at QB and now at WR- our Offense has a chance to be really decent. But we just simply won’t be very good on D. There is no hiding that
    We will be competitive on D as long as we don?t have a lot of injuries. The starters are ok the depth is concerning esp at ILB and CB

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We will be competitive on D as long as we don?t have a lot of injuries. The starters are ok the depth is concerning esp at ILB and CB
    We have no depth on the dL and no depth at any secondary spot. Lb well we don't have any there either. Can't play that way in this league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    We have no depth on the dL and no depth at any secondary spot. Lb well we don't have any there either. Can't play that way in this league.
    Losing Russell for the year on top of Lovett transferring really sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Losing Russell for the year on top of Lovett transferring really sucks.
    Yep. Huge. Losing Lovett is way bigger than what everyone in here wants to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Yep. Huge. Losing Lovett is way bigger than what everyone in here wants to admit.
    We really need Allen Love to be decent
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    We really need Allen Love to be decent
    Well, I'll say this, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    It going to boil down to 1 thing - can our guys pick up the new offense and defense in 6 weeks of camp and the first 4 games of the season. We have the talent to win those first 4, but will we have the knowledge and comfort within the systems to do it?
    If we can, we are going to be hell come October
    https://www.cougcenter.com/2012/4/6/...r-raid-offense
    http://smartfootball.com/gameplannin...essful-offense

    Leach has said he installs the offense in 3 days. Then just repeats the 3 day install over and over.

    Airraid Installation
    Install Airraid in Three Days
    Day 1
    Runs Base
    Quick Passes Hitch Slant Fade/out
    Dropback Passes Mesh Four Verticals Shallow
    Screens/Specials Quick screens

    Day 2
    Runs Zone Toss
    Quick Passes Hitch Slant Fade/Out Y-Stick
    Dropback Passes Mesh All-Curl Shakes Curl/Wheel
    Screens/Specials WR/Jailbreak screen

    Day 3
    Runs Power Draw
    Quick Passes Hitch Y-Corner Y-Stick Slant
    Dropback Passes Mesh Four Verticals Y-Sail/Flood Y-Cross
    Screens/Specials RB Screen Bootlegs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheltonChoked View Post
    https://www.cougcenter.com/2012/4/6/...r-raid-offense
    http://smartfootball.com/gameplannin...essful-offense

    Leach has said he installs the offense in 3 days. Then just repeats the 3 day install over and over.

    Airraid Installation
    Install Airraid in Three Days
    Day 1
    Runs Base
    Quick Passes Hitch Slant Fade/out
    Dropback Passes Mesh Four Verticals Shallow
    Screens/Specials Quick screens

    Day 2
    Runs Zone Toss
    Quick Passes Hitch Slant Fade/Out Y-Stick
    Dropback Passes Mesh All-Curl Shakes Curl/Wheel
    Screens/Specials WR/Jailbreak screen

    Day 3
    Runs Power Draw
    Quick Passes Hitch Y-Corner Y-Stick Slant
    Dropback Passes Mesh Four Verticals Y-Sail/Flood Y-Cross
    Screens/Specials RB Screen Bootlegs
    With 6 weeks of practice & 5 days of practice, we should at minimum get to run each day 10 times.

    That sounds like it should enough when you additionally consider that our players are out on the field right now throwing the rock around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    We have no depth on the dL and no depth at any secondary spot. Lb well we don't have any there either. Can't play that way in this league.
    Agree- not only are some starters very iffy- we have zero depth. We lost a helluva lot on the back end of our D from 2019. We are counting on jucos to fill in without any Spring practice- and even with Spring jucos usually take half a season to adjust. Even being well-coached- this unit will struggle in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We will be competitive on D as long as we don?t have a lot of injuries. The starters are ok the depth is concerning esp at ILB and CB
    Agree with that. Our starting D will compete and be OK. We need some new guys to really show up and provide some depth to make it thru the season.. Our O can help a lot if they stay on the field and score points which can make the opposing team off balance. We'll see....

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    Yeah we just aren't gonna be able to stop anybody, I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Agree- not only are some starters very iffy- we have zero depth. We lost a helluva lot on the back end of our D from 2019. We are counting on jucos to fill in without any Spring practice- and even with Spring jucos usually take half a season to adjust. Even being well-coached- this unit will struggle in 2020.
    Not only did we lose a lot, our secondary recruiting has been pretty atrocious. We got nothing in Charles, Reed, Furge, Guidry and Jarrian Jones. Lawrence was a developmental guy that might never contribute. Duncan and Preston are redshirt freshman that we now need to start or play a lot of reps and no one knows if they're any good.

    Basically we have Emerson, Williams, Murphy and maybe Peters that we think will be solid. CJ Morgan is still hurt and wasn't great before, but at least he's played. We REALLY need Dean, Cass and/or Richardson to be day one solid contributors or starters at safety and Forbes to be a solid backup at corner. We're an injury to one of those top 4 guys away from having someone out there that probably has no business playing yet.

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