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    Breaking: MSU Close to Pulling Off Block Buster Off Season Trade*

    In an unheard trade, MSU appears to be on the verge of completing its' off season hot stove by pulling off a massive 5 Team trade:

    Traded:

    Prospect Jarrian Jones - FSU
    Prospect Fabian Lovett - FSU
    Veteran Stewart Reese - Florida

    Received:

    KJ Costello - Stanford
    Scott Lashely - Alabama
    Tyrell Shavers for 2 years - Alabama

    Based on recruiting rankings, MSU gave up 266 of recruiting rankings points in return for 284 recruiting rankings points.

    In my mind, Reese & Lashely are a wash.
    Costello is the best single player in the trade
    Shavers fills the single biggest need in the trade.

    What we gave up was really the potential of Jones & Lovett. That's it.

    Welcome to the era of the transfer portal!

    Did we win the trade?
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    Lovett hurts. Overall, we upgraded.

    I wish we had 2 more quality DB's.

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    Considering that Jones is a ***** and Lovett can't do anything without his Dad holding his hand- just based on that yes.

    Reese has really slow feet. Trading him for Lashley is probably even.

    Traded the girls to FSU for two potential first round talents at two of our biggest positions of need on offense- advantage MSU.

    I do have to wonder about our defense. It's going to be like 2017 where it comes down to how big of an impact the JUCO guys make. I'd like to see this lineup.

    DE- Kobe Jones
    NT- Pickering- I think he would have at worst split time with Lovett if not eventually beat him out.
    DE- Spencer

    Edge/OLB- Tre Lawson
    MLB- Errol
    Edge/OLB- Jordan Davis

    CB- Tyler Williams
    CB- Emerson
    FS- Marcus Murphy- makes more sense to put him here than DOG with Jones gone. I think he is one of our best cover guys at the traditional safety position. And he's fast and can cover ground.
    DOG/Flex- Tyrus Wheat- dude is a Ashley Cooper clone
    DOG/Flex- Fred Peters

    Ideally I'd like to add another good CB and move Williams to safety but that's probably a pipe dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    In an unheard trade, MSU appears to be on the verge of completing its' off season hot stove by pulling off a massive 5 Team trade:

    Traded:

    Prospect Jarrian Jones - FSU
    Prospect Fabian Lovett - FSU
    Veteran Stewart Reese - Florida

    Received:

    KJ Costello - Stanford
    Scott Lashely - Alabama
    Tyrell Shavers for 2 years - Alabama

    Based on recruiting rankings, MSU gave up 266 of recruiting rankings points in return for 284 recruiting rankings points.

    In my mind, Reese & Lashely are a wash.
    Costello is the best single player in the trade
    Shavers fills the single biggest need in the trade.

    What we gave up was really the potential of Jones & Lovett. That's it.

    Welcome to the era of the transfer portal!

    Did we win the trade?
    Reese > Lashley until proven otherwise.

    But one year of Costello is probably worth one year of Lovett and Jones, so Shavers is just gravy past that if you're just comparing this year. Down the line it may change if Lovett and or Jones turn into something and if Shavers turns out to be mediocre, but I think if you had asked if we would make that trade the day after the Pirate was hired, most people would have said yes. Really going to depend on how Shavers turns out though, because it is tough giving up six years of defense between two players in exchange for 3 years of offense between two players. Especially since Lovett will probably be productive even if his work ethic isn't the greatest based on his RS freshman numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Lovett hurts. Overall, we upgraded.

    I wish we had 2 more quality DB's.
    Same way I see it. We're still looking at DB.

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    Something else to consider is that we didn't give up future trade capital.

    We can do this every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Same way I see it. We're still looking at DB.
    Good! Hopefully we can find two. I was watching Kyle Cass's video last night and I liked how physical he was. He and Caleb Ducking could be big time JUCO steals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Something else to consider is that we didn't give up future trade capital.

    We can do this every year.
    We also added Reed Buys over Brevyn Jones which is a win. We added Brandon Ruiz at kicker as well and that should help our KO situation.

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    Free agent market makes annual recruiting rankings pretty pointless... or more pointless than they already were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    Free agent market makes annual recruiting rankings pretty pointless... or more pointless than they already were.
    Did the recruiting experts ever find Mississippi on the map?**

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    Does LSU have any defensive backs that don't want to be there anymore? Asking for a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Did the recruiting experts ever find Mississippi on the map?**
    No. Chris Jones was a 2 star entering his senior season.

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    Lovett made 19 tackles in 13 games....how do we replace that kind of production?***

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    Wheat has WAY outgrown DB!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    Free agent market makes annual recruiting rankings pretty pointless... or more pointless than they already were.
    they should come out with the final rankings Sep 3rd each year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    they should come out with the final rankings Sep 3rd each year.
    We would have a top 15 class with the people we added. The 2019 and 2018 classes would drop though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    Free agent market makes annual recruiting rankings pretty pointless... or more pointless than they already were.
    Agree. We should be heavy participants in this every year.

    Make sure we end the Spring with 80 guys on scholly & save 5 spots to cherry pick blue blood 2nd teamers
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    We gonna be really good if this Leach guy gets off his butt and starts recruiting and getting us some players*******

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    We gonna be really good if this Leach guy gets off his butt and starts recruiting and getting us some players*******
    Nah, remember Leach can't croot
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Nah, remember Leach can't croot
    Yeah he sucks, don't care about crootin****

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