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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
When I read Revelations, I hear Saban's voice***
It's Revelation (no "s"). Common mistake.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
I don't see racism here ... sounds to me like they are just pissed that the coach told a lie about talking one on one to them ... but I don't know the whole story. If I had to bet then I would say this goes away and they play just like every other team.
It's interesting to know these transfers are probably thinking oh crap - the grass isn't greener
But, that's a pretty big lie to throw out there. Especially when all he had to say was "I texted the team, and we offered our support as a staff. We started workouts Monday, and we are going to organize some one-on-ones as the NCAA allows."
Saying he had extensive conversations with every player just broke the trust of the locker room. It was dumb, and I bet FSU has a big problem on its hands. We could be looking at a Mike Price situation in Tally.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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I want to share something with fellow elitedoggers about social media and the power it is generating recently. The impact is starting in urban high school football. Young players have their secure methods to communicate thru social media and anything a high school football football coach does or says spreads quickly. Young talent and families are deciding their futures thru address changing from one apartment to another. Also, wealthy schools are being exposed thru social media and evidence relatable to recruiting is on players iPhones. If a recruit wants the information, he needs, he just outreaches to players on the recruiting team and receives what he wants. There are less options in rural areas of America, but football is changing in urban America. Player at any level will closely observe their coaches character and politics and will respond accordingly. Whats been seen can not be unseen and social media will make sure of that.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
I don't see racism here ... sounds to me like they are just pissed that the coach told a lie about talking one on one to them ... but I don't know the whole story. If I had to bet then I would say this goes away and they play just like every other team.
It's interesting to know these transfers are probably thinking oh crap - the grass isn't greener
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I agree that this is the mostly likely scenario
And this is why you will still lose the bet.
If anything all of this going on solidifies Lovett's case even more. If you actually still think the NCAA won't grant him immediate eligibility if he points to the Leach tweet you're crazy.
But remember we didn't necessarily say we needed proof that he used the tweet as his leverage. Just that he needs to be granted immediate eligibility.
Last edited by StateDawg44; 06-04-2020 at 11:10 AM.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I'm gonna win my be-et, I'm gonna win my be-et, ....
So you think the NCAA will not grant Lovett immediate eligibility if he uses the Leach tweet at leverage because the coach of the school he signed with lied in a tweet? Even though what he did wasn't racist. Just dumb.
The NCAA wouldn't have touched this with a 10 foot pole before all of these protests. No way they will even blink an eye to stamp it now if Lovett wants to make a stink. Could you imagine the repercussions if Lovett used that tweet and the NCAA said no and he went public with that!?
LULZ! You might as well go ahead and start your month ban now.
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
I'm not convinced one guy speaks for the whole team even though he's acting like it
This is a great statement for future recruiting in Oxford?
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
It's Revelation (no "s"). Common mistake.
Ah, that's right. I'm usually better than that, lol.
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Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
So you think the NCAA will not grant Lovett immediate eligibility if he uses the Leach tweet at leverage because the coach of the school he signed with lied in a tweet? Even though what he did wasn't racist. Just dumb.
The NCAA wouldn't have touched this with a 10 foot pole before all of these protests. No way they will even blink an eye to stamp it now if Lovett wants to make a stink. Could you imagine the repercussions if Lovett used that tweet and the NCAA said no and he went public with that!?
LULZ! You might as well go ahead and start your month ban now.
Devil's advocate - what is someone from FSU tries to use the tweet to transfer without sitting and cites racism vs. just lying? They'll just grant it to everyone in attempts to wash their hands of it, but I do wonder how many waiver requests they'll get within the next month with racism mentioned somewhere in the application.
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Does Florida state have any good receivers or cornerbacks? Asking for a friend...
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They have kissed and made up... nothing to see anymore
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...arlier-dispute
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
No surprise there. This is the same program that covered for Famous Jameis, after all.
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
Devil's advocate - what is someone from FSU tries to use the tweet to transfer without sitting and cites racism vs. just lying? They'll just grant it to everyone in attempts to wash their hands of it, but I do wonder how many waiver requests they'll get within the next month with racism mentioned somewhere in the application.
Nothing racist was done. And no, I'm not saying Leach's tweet was either.
Just that an image with a noose in it would be a lot easier to sell as "racism" related than a tweet claiming he spoke with all players but didn't do 100% of what he claimed.
IMO, the NCAA would normally laugh them out of the room if they said because the coach lied about speaking to me. I could be way off on that though.
Race-related stuff is always a tight rope. Even more so right now.
I just think it would be a tougher sale. But they would probably get the stamp after the way 2020 has gone so far.
Last edited by StateDawg44; 06-05-2020 at 07:40 AM.
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
Well that didn't take long, geez. You just gotta laugh at some of this stuff.
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