-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Actually Socrates- not at all. I would love for it to work because as an old Veer/Option guy I would like to incorporate it into my offense. But until I see it work in the SEC- I disagree with the philosophy.
Watching the auburn-WSU game linked in the other thread, I think the wide splits def work better with air raid concepts as opposed to a difference scheme because the ball usually comes out fast and in rhythm. Plus I never saw more than 6 in the box so there is less concern about OL combo blocking up to the next level. We'll see how it works.
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Cant wait to see our OL play in space
Cross is so fast, he was made for that kind of setup. He could do some special things at LT in this O.
-
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Watching the auburn-WSU game linked in the other thread, I think the wide splits def work better with air raid concepts as opposed to a difference scheme because the ball usually comes out fast and in rhythm. Plus I never saw more than 6 in the box so there is less concern about OL combo blocking up to the next level. We'll see how it works.
Auburn was 13th in the SEC in Pass D and 10 in the SEC vs the run
Today you are seeing much more man underneath coverages because of RPOs- which in turn makes it harder to get the ball out as quickly. As I say- I want to see it work.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
-
Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Cross is so fast, he was made for that kind of setup. He could do some special things at LT in this O.
He has great feet- no doubt about it
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
-
Coach34....did you ever spill the beans about where you?ll be coaching this coming season?
-
Originally Posted by
William Tecumsah Sherman
Coach34....did you ever spill the beans about where you?ll be coaching this coming season?
Not until the contract is signed. I will say I was headed back to Louisiana originally but got cold feet and didnt feel good about the job. Backed out at the end.
I'll be coaching in one of the top districts top to bottom in the state this Fall
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
-
Member
Would someone tell Matt how much his podcast crowd would grow if he added the content to his bio each day instead of hour 1 and hour 2.
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Actually Socrates- not at all. I would love for it to work because as an old Veer/Option guy I would like to incorporate it into my offense. But until I see it work in the SEC- I disagree with the philosophy.
The wide splits has it positives and negatives for both the offense and defense. Its going to make it a lot harder for dlines to run twist and slants. If the qb is good with his cadence that will be another added advantage for the oline if they are outmanned head up.
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Actually Socrates- not at all. I would love for it to work because as an old Veer/Option guy I would like to incorporate it into my offense. But until I see it work in the SEC- I disagree with the philosophy.
LOL, I'll trust guys that have actually been there and done that over you.
"We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.
-
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Watching the auburn-WSU game linked in the other thread, I think the wide splits def work better with air raid concepts as opposed to a difference scheme because the ball usually comes out fast and in rhythm. Plus I never saw more than 6 in the box so there is less concern about OL combo blocking up to the next level. We'll see how it works.
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Auburn was 13th in the SEC in Pass D and 10 in the SEC vs the run
Today you are seeing much more man underneath coverages because of RPOs- which in turn makes it harder to get the ball out as quickly. As I say- I want to see it work.
Though Auburn's D in 2013 was definitely about as weak a unit as there's been for an SEC champion in the past decade, it wasn't a joke or anything. It was still mega talented (especially compared to WSU's bottom-of-the-PAC-12-barrel talent pool), was ranked between 50th and 25th or so nationally in advanced efficiency stats, and was top 3 in the SEC in sacks, TFLs, and passes defended. (Looking back at the stats, I see that 2013 was Dee Ford's senior season. Damn, that dude was a beast.) Not among the SEC's best that year for sure. But serviceable.
As much as I liked seeing proof that an untalented offense early in a Leach regime could compete for a full game against an SEC blue blood, though, it was still only one game seven seasons ago. No doubt defenses have evolved. I too am stoked to see how this is going to work. It's going to be so unlike anything I've ever seen at State that I imagine it's going to take some time for me to even get used to. The air raid is happening at MSU. Wild, wild stuff, man.
(As I mentioned in the other thread, I was just as interested to see Leach's offense's methodical pace as the talent match-ups. At least in 2013, this was not a hurry-up offense. Bill C. has an "adjusted pace" stat that basically adjusts a offense's pace based on its run/pass selection. WSU's adjusted paced was 85th nationally in 2013.)
But hey, no worries regardless on the splits issue. Since our O-line had the 11th worst sack rate in the entire country last year -- that's right; 119th out of 130 -- our pass protection quite literally can't get much worse this year. Hi oh!
Last edited by Prediction? Pain.; 05-23-2020 at 12:20 AM.
-
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Auburn was 13th in the SEC in Pass D and 10 in the SEC vs the run
Today you are seeing much more man underneath coverages because of RPOs- which in turn makes it harder to get the ball out as quickly. As I say- I want to see it work.
That auburn D line had nfl guys all over it. Adams, Lawson, and Ford to name a few. Not sure what more you want in terms of whether wide splits can work against great sec d linemen.
Regardless, leach runs zero RPO, and even if teams decide to play man (which i think several will), in theory the ball should come out quicker against man. The reads are cleaner and there is no traffic. Plus there is often pressure in man which necessitates getting the ball out on time.
Now whether the receiver will be open or will catch the ball against tight man is an entirely different issue. I'm much less worried about pass pro than I am wr play. Our OL will get beat at times, but not any worse than it did last year with normal splits.
Last edited by confucius say; 05-23-2020 at 01:09 AM.
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.