We're not going to play football this fall **!!!!**

[gtowndawg]

From this morning...

[ShotgunDawg]

Nah, nah, nah, you're wrong*

I'm not saying another word because I don't want to get banned for making a political post

[Political Hack]

It's possible we don't play. It's possible we do play. Anyone saying they know confidently one way or the other plus lying to themselves and lying to you.

[Liverpooldawg]

It's possible we don't play. It's possible we do play. Anyone saying they know confidently one way or the other plus lying to themselves and lying to you.

This

[gtowndawg]

It's possible we don't play. It's possible we do play. Anyone saying they know confidently one way or the other plus lying to themselves and lying to you.

So Miss. State football is lying?

[StateDawg44]

So Miss. State football is lying?

I think it's more that there is no one who can actually make that call this far out with 100% certainty.

Sometimes there are higher powers that make that call. In cases like what we are dealing with now.

[FISHDAWG]

I think it's more that there is no one who can actually make that call this far out with 100% certainty.

Sometimes there are higher powers that make that call. In cases like what we are dealing with now.

agreed ... but if planning isn't started now then nothing will happen for sure ... it's easier to cancel on short notice but impossible to start on short notice

[BeardoMSU]

agreed ... but if planning isn't started now then nothing will happen for sure ... it's easier to cancel on short notice but impossible to start on short notice

Definitely

[Liverpooldawg]

So Miss. State football is lying?

It's more like they are trying to sell you tickets. They don't know yet but they have to plan like we are. They won't make that call anyway.

[ScoobaDawg]

So Miss. State football is lying?

They are trying to sell a product in a world of uncertainty.... games be still be cancelled, rescheuled, moved, played without fans, or who knows what else. At worst they have to refund the tickets. better than not selling them to start with...

In other words, this is carrying on with giving people hope we can go back to normal.. because yes it's too far out to make a decision truthfully.

[TheLostDawg]

They are trying to sell a product in a world of uncertainty.... games be still be cancelled, rescheuled, moved, played without fans, or who knows what else. At worst they have to refund the tickets. better than not selling them to start with...

In other words, this is carrying on with giving people hope we can go back to normal.. because yes it's too far out to make a decision truthfully.

This

[gtowndawg]

They are trying to sell a product in a world of uncertainty.... games be still be cancelled, rescheuled, moved, played without fans, or who knows what else. At worst they have to refund the tickets. better than not selling them to start with...

In other words, this is carrying on with giving people hope we can go back to normal.. because yes it's too far out to make a decision truthfully.

I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.

edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.

[BhamDawg]

I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.

edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.

Fraud is purposefully deceiving people for financial gain. If there is no season, everybody gets their money back. This is not fraud.

You are an idiot. Post less.

[TheLostDawg]

I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.

edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.

I respectfully disagree. We all know what we're doing renewing season tickets and if we aren't able to attend, I believe they would do exactly as they have with the baseball season ticket holders (a precedent has been established). However if they took our money and didn't give it back if we don't play, that's another story.

[R2Dawg]

I disagree, that's called fraud. If you sell something not knowing if you can fulfill the order that's fraudulent. Strong words I know, but our University doesn't get a pass on that. If they are concerned fans can't attend they need to clearly state that in all of their sales collateral (digital marketing included). Clearly explain what happens if you purchase and you can not use it. I'm on the board of directors for a large summer camp (and we are still in limbo as of this week) and that's exactly what we have to do according to our legal counsel.

edited to say: I think they are absolutely confident games will be played and fans will be there and that's why they are pushing ticket sales and telling people to get excited about football at Davis Wade. Time will tell now.

It is not fraud. Common man.

They are planning on playing. If we don't they will give everyone a free refund. I got refunds on my daughter there this spring that to be honest they didn't even have to do but they did the right thing and then some.

[Johnson85]

It's possible we don't play. It's possible we do play. Anyone saying they know confidently one way or the other plus lying to themselves and lying to you.

Either result is possible, and granted we still don't have perfect information, but us not playing would require us finding out something new about the virus that makes it much more dangerous than it is now, or us just overreacting.

I think the smart bet as of now is that we will play, although there might be disruptions if the summer really slows down the spread and then we get a big spike when it gets cooler. Hopefully we will continue to work though it over the summer and whatever spike comes will be manageable.

[Political Hack]

Either result is possible, and granted we still don't have perfect information, but us not playing would require us finding out something new about the virus that makes it much more dangerous than it is now, or us just overreacting.

I think the smart bet as of now is that we will play, although there might be disruptions if the summer really slows down the spread and then we get a big spike when it gets cooler. Hopefully we will continue to work though it over the summer and whatever spike comes will be manageable.

Depends on the strain of the hospital systems. If we see 80% of hospital beds or ICU beds filled in a state,
I promise you they won't be allowing football games. Death rate is irrelevant in that calculation. Also, nobody knows the long term impacts yet. We're starting to see some of it pop up in children even. If otherwise healthy children are susceptible to auto-immune issues and are actually having some level (% wise) of post-infection reaction, it'll start a political wildfire that won't be out out by pundits arguing about low death rates. All of those variables are moving targets right now. Depending on how it plays out we may or may not have football. Praying we get to see the season, even if it a crazy forfeit filled mess. Also hope I get to see my kids play ball. But that doesn't mean I think it'll happen. Most people right now are arguing for what they want to happen rather than just letting the situation dictate how we should act. It's defiant and irresponsible, but it's also human nature.

[Todd4State]

Depends on the strain of the hospital systems. If we see 80% of hospital beds or ICU beds filled in a state,
I promise you they won't be allowing football games. Death rate is irrelevant in that calculation. Also, nobody knows the long term impacts yet. We're starting to see some of it pop up in children even. If otherwise healthy children are susceptible to auto-immune issues and are actually having some level (% wise) of post-infection reaction, it'll start a political wildfire that won't be out out by pundits arguing about low death rates. All of those variables are moving targets right now. Depending on how it plays out we may or may not have football. Praying we get to see the season, even if it a crazy forfeit filled mess. Also hope I get to see my kids play ball. But that doesn't mean I think it'll happen. Most people right now are arguing for what they want to happen rather than just letting the situation dictate how we should act. It's defiant and irresponsible, but it's also human nature.

I can't see opening up straining the hospital systems. People expecting the future to be worse simply aren't being logical or don't understand how viruses typically work.

[Political Hack]

I can't see opening up straining the hospital systems. People expecting the future to be worse simply aren't being logical or don't understand how viruses typically work.

This isn't just a virus. It's not the flu. It's a pandemic. Historically, you'll find that the 2nd wave is worse than the first. There's not really a question of whether there will be another wave, it's a question of how bad it will be and when it will happen. And it is absolutely possible that it will overwhelm the healthcare system in various regions of the country. I can also tell you that while Georgia is in decline, the southeast has seen a sustained increase in cases the last 4 days in a row with the most significant jump coming yesterday. I completely expect to see stories in the future about PPE shortages, young people dying that didn't even know they had health issues, and ICU bed space limitations. That's a foregone conclusion to "opening up."

[Dawgology]

From this morning...

Zillions of MSU football fans...doomed !***