If NIL Rules Pass, Will Recruiting Sites Accept Kick Backs for Better Rankings?

[ShotgunDawg]

Dave Bartoo kind of hinted at this on Bo Bounds this morning & it's kind of interesting to think about.

- promotional & money making opportunities will be used to recruit players.

- The higher the star rating, the more star power & financial upside the player will have.

- Recruiting sites subjectively determine the stars of a player.

- It is therefore financially beneficial for the player to be rated higher by recruiting services.

- Recruiting services are not in any way under the regulation of the NCAA

- Thus, do recruiting sites accept kick backs on star ratings?

- Do recruiting sites sell star ratings? For $10K we'll bump you from a 3 star to a 4 star? For $50K we'll bump you from a 4 star to a 5 star? Obviously the talent has to match the rating to some extent but we've all seen tons of high 3 stars & high 4 stars that could easily be bumped up without anyone knowing why.

Just a thought on the level of ridiculousness this rule could create

[Ifyouonlyknew]

So you're saying boosters may pay recruiting sites anywhere from $10 to $50k to bump up a kids rankings?

[ShotgunDawg]

So you're saying boosters may pay recruiting sites anywhere from $10 to $50k to bump up a kids rankings?

I'm saying the kid's agents will pay the recruiting sites for higher ratings.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I'm saying the kid's agents will pay the recruiting sites for higher ratings.

They wouldn't have agents in HS. Also unless you're at the very top of the class why would an agent want to deal with a 3* kid or even a low 4* kid? Their value to a business is going to be little to none. Hell the average player on a college team isn't going to have value in the open market.

[basedog]

They wouldn't have agents in HS. Also unless you're at the very top of the class why would an agent want to deal with a 3* kid or even a low 4* kid? Their value to a business is going to be little to none. Hell the average player on a college team isn't going to have value in the open market.

I agree, cheaters gonna cheat anyway.

[Jack Lambert]

So you're saying boosters may pay recruiting sites anywhere from $10 to $50k to bump up a kids rankings?

That is already happening.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That is already happening.

To bump kids rankings? No no it's not.

[TUSK]

Nah.

[ShotgunDawg]

They wouldn't have agents in HS. Also unless you're at the very top of the class why would an agent want to deal with a 3* kid or even a low 4* kid? Their value to a business is going to be little to none. Hell the average player on a college team isn't going to have value in the open market.

You don't know how it works at all.

The recommendations set forth by the NCAA mentioned that players could have agents to cut promotional deals. Every potential HS baseball draft pick already has an agent but under the title "advisor"

It's a really simple leap to make that football agencies become HS football player's "advisors" at no cost to the agency or player with the agency getting a 20% or greater cut of the endorsement money while also locking down the player should he develop into an NFL prospect.

THIS WILL HAPPEN!!! It's already happened in baseball and once it does happen, it's a smart business move for the agency to buy a better recruiting rankings as that has shown to increase the profile and marketability of the player.

You know a lot about HS football players, but you simply have no idea what you're talking about in this area.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

You don't know how it works at all.

The recommendations set forth by the NCAA mentioned that players could have agents to cut promotional deals. Every potential HS baseball draft pick already has an agent but under the title "advisor"

It's a really simple leap to make that football agencies become HS football player's "advisors" at no cost to the agency or player with the agency getting a 20% or greater cut of the endorsement money while also locking down the player should he develop into an NFL prospect.

THIS WILL HAPPEN!!! It's already happened in baseball and once it does happen, it's a smart business move for the agency to buy a better recruiting rankings as that has shown to increase the profile and marketability of the player.

You know a lot about HS football players, but you simply have no idea what you're talking about in this area.

Ok sure

[ShotgunDawg]

Ok sure

At least your honest here.

Your comment on HS football players not having agents was so incredibly ignorant that it showed you have no clue what you're talking about on this area. None whatsoever.

[basedog]

At least your honest here.

Your comment on HS football players not having agents was so incredibly ignorant that it showed you have no clue what you're talking about on this area. None whatsoever.

You mad Gun or did IYOK burn down yo 'He shed"? It's just discussions and opinions, you should understand. Who knows untill it unfolds where all this goes.

[BB30]

At least your honest here.

Your comment on HS football players not having agents was so incredibly ignorant that it showed you have no clue what you're talking about on this area. None whatsoever.

No because every Tom, Dick, and Harry would be trying to get there clientele bumped up. So you would still end up with only the most athletic or best players getting bumps or you would end up with way too many 4 and 5 stars.

Everyone can't be a 4 or 5* and recruiting services know this. If they all of the sudden started having more of each classification people would realize it's more of a scam than it already is. So even if you do have some kids agents paying to get bumped it is probably already a kid that is considered to be pretty damn talented or a kid that already has offers from your top schools IE Bama etc. Which they already get bumps anyways once they commit to one of the big schools.

So no, I don't think it will change much at all from what it already is if the recruiting services want to survive.

[ShotgunDawg]

No because every Tom, Dick, and Harry would be trying to get there clientele bumped up. So you would still end up with only the most athletic or best players getting bumps or you would end up with way too many 4 and 5 stars.

Everyone can't be a 4 or 5* and recruiting services know this. If they all of the sudden started having more of each classification people would realize it's more of a scam than it already is. So even if you do have some kids agents paying to get bumped it is probably already a kid that is considered to be pretty damn talented or a kid that already has offers from your top schools IE Bama etc. Which they already get bumps anyways once they commit to one of the big schools.

So no, I don't think it will change much at all from what it already is if the recruiting services want to survive.

I think this is a solid opinion in that you agree it will be attempted but are putting your faith in the recruiting sites to not cave.

It'll be interesting to see what happens

[FISHDAWG]

At least your honest here.

Your comment on HS football players not having agents was so incredibly ignorant that it showed you have no clue what you're talking about on this area. None whatsoever.

You're just wrong here and out of line calling someone ignorant that is obviously very much experienced with recruiting, players, and the overall aspects ... in other words I think IYOK is in the business and you're not .... when the Hell are you going to learn to quit insulting people ????

[ShotgunDawg]

You're just wrong here and out of line calling someone ignorant that is obviously very much experienced with recruiting, players, and the overall aspects ... in other words I think IYOK is in the business and you're not .... when the Hell are you going to learn to quit insulting people ????

This post is completely ridiculous. What you think you know here is backwards.

I understand your point, but it's off because you're making assumptions that are way off.

IYOK is extremely knowledgable & awesome with players. He really is. Maybe the best in Mississippi. However, that has nothing to do with agents, how they work, & what would happen if & when they are allowed to be advisors to HS kids, which they would since agencies would want to start recruiting the most marketable college players at a young age.

[FISHDAWG]

This post is completely ridiculous. What you think you know here is backwards.

I understand your point, but it's off because you're making assumptions that are way off.

IYOK is extremely knowledgable & awesome with players. He really is. Maybe the best in Mississippi. However, that has nothing to do with agents, how they work, & what would happen if & when they are allowed to be advisors to HS kids, which they would since agencies would want to start recruiting the most marketable college players at a young age.

and just where did you acquire all of this experience ? Are you in the industry ? I think you're just speculating and don't have a clue .... at the very least you can quit calling INTELLIGENT people ignorant

[ShotgunDawg]

and just where did you acquire all of this experience ? Are you in the industry ? I think you're just speculating and don't have a clue .... at the very least you can quit calling INTELLIGENT people ignorant

Think what you want. I don't care

[TheLostDawg]

I imagine a lot of high school kids are going to get burned much like a lot of NFL players have in the past. Hopefully there will be some protocols in place to limit them and their families getting taken advantage of.

[3rdGen]

My question is then.........who wants to start an agency with me? I mean shotgun if you know how this works you can get 17percent for your knowledge and another 17 percent for your connections and another 17 percent for your time....love this 17in site. Anyway I really mean it about the agency. Sounds like it could be legit plan long term. Tough upstart but if you do land that first and second nfl hof player you may be good.