All-Time Mississippi State Baseball Starting Lineup

[Gutter Cobreh]

he said he was basing it on pro career as well. It's his thread so his rules in making the team, so hard to argue w much of it.

First, this is a stacked team regardless of how you slice it.

I wish Shotgun had been honest though and simply said that we don't have many options for the left side of the infield. You can't include the "pro" part and then insert personal bias and expectations to make Foscue and Westburg fit the narrative. If that's the case and you're going off "overall" career, how you don't find a roster spot for the all-time SEC hit king is baffling. I'm not suggesting he starts in the outfield, but to not even roster him is preposterous.

[ShotgunDawg]

First, this is a stacked team regardless of how you slice it.

I wish Shotgun had been honest though and simply said that we don't have many options for the left side of the infield. You can't include the "pro" part and then insert personal bias and expectations to make Foscue and Westburg fit the narrative. If that's the case and you're going off "overall" career, how you don't find a roster spot for the all-time SEC hit king is baffling. I'm not suggesting he starts in the outfield, but to not even roster him is preposterous.

Solid argument. Make your lineup.

Yeah. We lack left side of the infield guys, but I do expect Foscue and Westburg to end up being the best.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Solid argument. Make your lineup.

Yeah. We lack left side of the infield guys, but I do expect Foscue and Westburg to end up being the best.

I think your group is solid. I was just pointing out that it seems our left side is weak when compared to other positions.

You could say Frazier is the SS, but he is a 2B in the show - so it's hard to compare "overall" careers since positions in the MLB are a lot more specialized than in college. Especially when you go back a few decades, you had position players that were also pitchers. You didn't see someone who only pitched.

[basedog]

You guys can argue day and night about third base, but Phil Still at third base may have been the best ever. Played in Yankee triple A ball, Craig Nettles was his hold up to the majors. Not as many teams or minors in the day. Played whole lot less games and with wooden bat, dude was a stud! Great fielder as well, btw I loved Pete Young, he would be my backup there.

[Todd4State]

Overall career in baseball? That's different but I like it. I kind of thought about all-encompassing career. I couldn't find a spot for Gary Rath- great career in Korea, Jack Lazorko- pitched literally all over the world, and Willie Mitchell- first Mississippian in MLB.

Friday- Jeff Brantley
Saturday- Boo Ferriss
Sunday- Dakota Hudson

Tuesday- Paul Maholm
Wednesday- Ethan Small (I think he makes it and does well in MLB)

Closer- Bobby Thigpen (I just like him better as a player than Papelbon)
Set-up- Jonathan Papelbon
7th inning guy- Jay Powell
LOOGY- Jacob Lindgren
Middle relief- Jonathan Holder (I don't need two LOOGY's)
Long relief- Kendall Graveman

C- Craig Tatum
C- Ed Easley

1B- Will Clark
2B- Hugh Critz- borderline HOF second baseman from the 20's and 30's
3B- Adam Piatt
SS- Adam Frazier

LF- Rafael Palmeiro
CF- Jake Mangum (Yes, I think he makes it and as far as overall baseball career he has had an immeasurable impact on baseball in Mississippi already)
RF- Hunter Renfroe
Fourth OF- Mitch Moreland

DH- Brent Rooker
PH- Del Unser- one of the best PH in MLB history
PR- Jacob Robson- I think he makes it up this year and probably plays for Canada in the WBC
UTL- Jimmy Bragan- Former president of Southern League, former MLB manager and player, former MSU coach. I'd say he had a big impact on baseball in his career.

HC- Buck Showalter
Bench Coach- Ron Polk. I saw him guest coach third base for the Jackson Generals after he retired the first 1 1/2 time in 1997.
Pitching Coach- Chris Young
Bullpen Coach- Sammy Ellis
Hitting Coach- Travis Chapman (hitting coach in Yankees minor league system)
First base Coach- Chris Maloney- former Cardinals first base coach
Third base Coach- Alex Grammas- Third base coach for the Big Red Machine and Detroit Tigers with Sparky Anderson
Team Chaplain- Ftr. Burke Masters- Chicago Cubs

[ShotgunDawg]

Overall career in baseball? That's different but I like it. I kind of thought about all-encompassing career. I couldn't find a spot for Gary Rath- great career in Korea, Jack Lazorko- pitched literally all over the world, and Willie Mitchell- first Mississippian in MLB.

Friday- Jeff Brantley
Saturday- Boo Ferriss
Sunday- Dakota Hudson

Tuesday- Paul Maholm
Wednesday- Ethan Small (I think he makes it and does well in MLB)

Closer- Bobby Thigpen (I just like him better as a player than Papelbon)
Set-up- Jonathan Papelbon
7th inning guy- Jay Powell
LOOGY- Jacob Lindgren
Middle relief- Jonathan Holder (I don't need two LOOGY's)
Long relief- Kendall Graveman

C- Craig Tatum
C- Ed Easley

1B- Will Clark
2B- Hugh Critz- borderline HOF second baseman from the 20's and 30's
3B- Adam Piatt
SS- Adam Frazier

LF- Rafael Palmeiro
CF- Jake Mangum (Yes, I think he makes it and as far as overall baseball career he has had an immeasurable impact on baseball in Mississippi already)
RF- Hunter Renfroe
Fourth OF- Mitch Moreland

DH- Brent Rooker
PH- Del Unser- one of the best PH in MLB history
PR- Jacob Robson- I think he makes it up this year and probably plays for Canada in the WBC
UTL- Jimmy Bragan- Former president of Southern League, former MLB manager and player, former MSU coach. I'd say he had a big impact on baseball in his career.

HC- Buck Showalter
Bench Coach- Ron Polk. I saw him guest coach third base for the Jackson Generals after he retired the first 1 1/2 time in 1997.
Pitching Coach- Chris Young
Bullpen Coach- Sammy Ellis
Hitting Coach- Travis Chapman (hitting coach in Yankees minor league system)
First base Coach- Chris Maloney- former Cardinals first base coach
Third base Coach- Alex Grammas- Third base coach for the Big Red Machine and Detroit Tigers with Sparky Anderson
Team Chaplain- Ftr. Burke Masters- Chicago Cubs

My team would beat yours

[Homedawg]

Overall career in baseball? That's different but I like it. I kind of thought about all-encompassing career. I couldn't find a spot for Gary Rath- great career in Korea, Jack Lazorko- pitched literally all over the world, and Willie Mitchell- first Mississippian in MLB.

Friday- Jeff Brantley
Saturday- Boo Ferriss
Sunday- Dakota Hudson

Tuesday- Paul Maholm
Wednesday- Ethan Small (I think he makes it and does well in MLB)

Closer- Bobby Thigpen (I just like him better as a player than Papelbon)
Set-up- Jonathan Papelbon
7th inning guy- Jay Powell
LOOGY- Jacob Lindgren
Middle relief- Jonathan Holder (I don't need two LOOGY's)
Long relief- Kendall Graveman

C- Craig Tatum
C- Ed Easley

1B- Will Clark
2B- Hugh Critz- borderline HOF second baseman from the 20's and 30's
3B- Adam Piatt
SS- Adam Frazier

LF- Rafael Palmeiro
CF- Jake Mangum (Yes, I think he makes it and as far as overall baseball career he has had an immeasurable impact on baseball in Mississippi already)
RF- Hunter Renfroe
Fourth OF- Mitch Moreland

DH- Brent Rooker
PH- Del Unser- one of the best PH in MLB history
PR- Jacob Robson- I think he makes it up this year and probably plays for Canada in the WBC
UTL- Jimmy Bragan- Former president of Southern League, former MLB manager and player, former MSU coach. I'd say he had a big impact on baseball in his career.

HC- Buck Showalter
Bench Coach- Ron Polk. I saw him guest coach third base for the Jackson Generals after he retired the first 1 1/2 time in 1997.
Pitching Coach- Chris Young
Bullpen Coach- Sammy Ellis
Hitting Coach- Travis Chapman (hitting coach in Yankees minor league system)
First base Coach- Chris Maloney- former Cardinals first base coach
Third base Coach- Alex Grammas- Third base coach for the Big Red Machine and Detroit Tigers with Sparky Anderson
Team Chaplain- Ftr. Burke Masters- Chicago Cubs

Piatt is definitely the correct choice at third.

[ShotgunDawg]

Piatt is definitely the correct choice at third.

Foscue will be better but I debated Piatt.

[Tbonewannabe]

Then I think you still go with Ferriss over Graveman. I don't have to see him to know a guy who won 20 in the show twice, was an All-Star, was 4th in MVP voting as a rookie, and was 65-30 in his career is better than Graveman.

Boo Ferris also has his own dedicated spot in the Red Sox museum at Fenway. He is one of two with Ted Williams being the other. I am sure Boggs and Clemens winning a World Series for the Yankees are a big reason they don't.

[Homedawg]

Foscue will be better but I debated Piatt.

I love foscue. Love him. You might be right. BUT if you use your rules, at present, piatt is the correct answer today. Can't have it both ways. Otherwise I can shoot holes in your team. Which I've already stated is a good one.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Including the MLB stats does not seem right. Might as well include signees that never played

Brett Pirtle in the dead bay era was awesome for us, way more impact than Westburg.

Dakota was good but only one season. Bobby Reed was good all career, BJ Wallace was an Ace of Aces

Foscue had a great career, solid baller

Like someone said, no Mangum?

Your bench is overloaded with 1b?men. No backup catcher and no great outfielder, like Mangum or Hurst

Ross Mitchell was great for us, never an MLB guy but great for us

[Todd4State]

Including the MLB stats does not seem right. Might as well include signees that never played

Brett Pirtle in the dead bay era was awesome for us, way more impact than Westburg.

Dakota was good but only one season. Bobby Reed was good all career, BJ Wallace was an Ace of Aces

Foscue had a great career, solid baller

Like someone said, no Mangum?

Your bench is overloaded with 1b?men. No backup catcher and no great outfielder, like Mangum or Hurst

Ross Mitchell was great for us, never an MLB guy but great for us

My thing about impact in baseball which is kind of how I look at it- Ferriss had a ton more impact on the game of baseball in Mississippi especially because he basically started Delta State's program as well as being a 20 game winner on the MLB level. Delta State is obviously not MLB but they are a big part of the baseball landscape.

On the hand Mangum hasn't played a game in MLB but there is no question he has had a major impact on baseball. Huge advocate for increasing scholarships and promoting the college game. And he is just starting really. I'm almost certain he will be our coach one day.

And then Pete Young- played in MLB and is one of the top coaches in Mississippi at the travel ball level. That's a big impact as well.

Piatt was on a shoe ad in the 90's.

[Homedawg]

Including the MLB stats does not seem right. Might as well include signees that never played

Brett Pirtle in the dead bay era was awesome for us, way more impact than Westburg.

Dakota was good but only one season. Bobby Reed was good all career, BJ Wallace was an Ace of Aces

Foscue had a great career, solid baller

Like someone said, no Mangum?

Your bench is overloaded with 1b?men. No backup catcher and no great outfielder, like Mangum or Hurst

Ross Mitchell was great for us, never an MLB guy but great for us

He made the rules. You can start one another way. I think what he set up is fair.

[Ezsoil]

Solid team but I'd put Thigpen as the closer as the 47 stood for so long

I'm not sold on Westburg at the next level...so I'd go with Frazier at short, Young or Piatt at 3rd