Vic to Texas

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dont overpay to get someone. You could offer Kelly Graves 800-850 and see if you could get him. If not, go to Mitchell and make him a fair offer and if he declines then get Johnnie Harris. There's no reason to overpay when we don't have to. Unless Auriemma or Staley calls you, then don't overpay. Odds are you're not going to get into a bidding war for a women's basketball coach. It's just the facts, there's only about 30 programs that give a rip about women's basketball.

[natchez87]

Dont overpay to get someone. You could offer Kelly Graves 800-850 and see if you could get him. If not, go to Mitchell and make him a fair offer and if he declines then get Johnnie Harris. There's no reason to overpay when we don't have to. Unless Auriemma or Staley calls you, then don't overpay. Odds are you're not going to get into a bidding war for a women's basketball coach. It's just the facts, there's only about 30 programs that give a rip about women's basketball.

Not true. Women's Basketball is probably the most popular collegiate sport behind Football and Men's Basketball. ESPN will vouch for that.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not true. Women's Basketball is probably the most popular collegiate sport behind Football and Men's Basketball. ESPN will vouch for that.

But Football and Men's basketball are the only two that make money at every school except a handful where baseball makes a little money. Yes, even we lose money in women's basketball. No one wants to get into a bidding war for a sport that loses the school 7 figures annually.

[msstate7]

Not true. Women's Basketball is probably the most popular collegiate sport behind Football and Men's Basketball. ESPN will vouch for that.

Not in our conference... it's clearly behind baseball

[natchez87]

Not in our conference... it's clearly behind baseball

That's debatable but I didn't say in our conference. The poster said 30 programs nationwide. That's what I was referring to.

[natchez87]

But Football and Men's basketball are the only two that make money at every school except a handful where baseball makes a little money. Yes, even we lose money in women's basketball. No one wants to get into a bidding war for a sport that loses the school 7 figures annually.

Lol. No. It's no way they were paying Vic and other collegiate Women's Basketball coaches millions of dollars if Women's Basketball doesn't make any money for the schools. Women's College Basketball is on ESPN networks more than baseball and the schools get paid for that as well. Not sure where you're getting that info from.

[Homedawg]

Lol. No. It's no way they were paying Vic and other collegiate Women's Basketball coaches millions of dollars if Women's Basketball doesn't make any money for the schools. Women's College Basketball is on ESPN networks more than baseball and the schools get paid for that as well. Not sure where you're getting that info from.

Sorry bud but we were losing our ass on women's basketball. Millions not a million. It's a fact.

[StarkVegasSteve]

"What Vic Schaefer and his staff have done here is unbelievable. They built the program from scratch, from the ground up. They deserve a lot of credit. While it is not net revenue producing, the ambassadors they are for Mississippi State University, Mississippi State athletics and ultimately for our fanbase is great. (As for men's basketball) it produces more revenue then women's basketball from the standpoint of ticket prices and donations.

-Jared Benko in a Gene's Page interview Dec. 16 2019

That's where I got my information from. Also LSU released it's budget last week and women's basketball lost the school 2 mil.

[natchez87]

"What Vic Schaefer and his staff have done here is unbelievable. They built the program from scratch, from the ground up. They deserve a lot of credit. While it is not net revenue producing, the ambassadors they are for Mississippi State University, Mississippi State athletics and ultimately for our fanbase is great. (As for men's basketball) it produces more revenue then women's basketball from the standpoint of ticket prices and donations.

-Jared Benko in a Gene's Page interview Dec. 16 2019

That's where I got my information from. Also LSU released it's budget last week and women's basketball lost the school 2 mil.

"Net revenue producing" takes into account expenses. Expenses include costs for things like facilities, event staffing, etc... which multiple sports use. (exerpt below) To say that Women's Basketball doesn't make any money for the school is inaccurate. The amount of money that a sport generates has nothing to do with how the school chooses to SPEND the money. Schools make a lot of money off the NCAA Tournament/Final Four alone.

From USA Today: "Another figure that contributed to MSU's rise in expenses, which saw an increase of approximately $15 million for the second straight year, was a $6 million rise in cost for facilities."

And it goes without saying that LSU doesn't represent every athletic department in the nation.

[smootness]

"Net revenue producing" takes into account expenses. Expenses include costs for things like facilities, event staffing, etc... which multiple sports use. (exerpt below) To say that Women's Basketball doesn't make any money for the school is inaccurate. The amount of money that a sport generates has nothing to do with how the school chooses to SPEND the money. Schools make a lot of money off the NCAA Tournament/Final Four alone.

From USA Today: "Another figure that contributed to MSU's rise in expenses, which saw an increase of approximately $15 million for the second straight year, was a $6 million rise in cost for facilities."

And it goes without saying that LSU doesn't represent every athletic department in the nation.

Correct, it doesn't produce a net positive when accounting for cost. So it doesn't make money for the school on its own.

Now, obviously there is a benefit or the school wouldn't be willing to spend on it. That benefit is seen in other ways, I'm sure - exposure, branding, increased applications and enrollment, etc. I'm sure when all possible avenues are explored, it is a gain for the university. But the sport itself, in terms of costs out versus revenues in, does not end up making money.