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    NCAA Give All Spring Sports Athletes Another Year....

    1. Everyone gets another year of eligibility
    2. SRs will not count vs the 35 man roster or the 27 man scholarship limit
    3. What we don't know is if SRs will count vs the 11.7 scholarships
    4. What will be interesting is to see what coaches do with quality SRs that are blocking quality draft HS prospects from starting next season. Will that lower the draft prospects draft signability or will the coach run off the SR who would in most cases win the starting job? That's a HUGE question
    5. I think this virtually assures that the draft will be at least 10 rounds. Can't have a back log of that many good players in college baseball. It's not fair to next year's draft class to do so.

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    Wo raising the 11.7 its a mess. Even wo the sr....as I said before w ncaa will find a way not screw it up...... the long term effects of this are going to be really tough on coaches, since they just made this a one year "fix ".
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    Yeah they really just need to pull 10 schollies from football and put them in baseball. It would be an easy fix and two birds one stone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yeah they really just need to pull 10 schollies from football and put them in baseball. It would be an easy fix and two birds one stone
    Yup. Would help both sports immeasurably
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yeah they really just need to pull 10 schollies from football and put them in baseball. It would be an easy fix and two birds one stone
    There are just over 100 d1 football schools and 300 ish baseball. It doesn't work that way. Obviously all of us in the sec want the 11.7 to go up. It was 13 during my day and that wasn't enough. It's a crime.

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    I hope this sets a precedent where scholarships get raised.

    I can dream anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Yup. Would help both sports immeasurably
    You serious Clark?

    Rob from football to pay baseball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    You serious Clark?

    Rob from football to pay baseball?
    No. Increase the competition in football, which would bring more money to the sport while also allotting those scholarships to baseball to meet Title 9.

    Football in no way needs anything close to 85 scholarships & the over abundance of scholarships in the sport actually hurts the sport due to a few programs hoarding an inordinate amount of the top talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    You serious Clark?

    Rob from football to pay baseball?
    Absolutely, would make both sports better. Football needs to be robbed with its glut of scholarships. Only about 8-10 schools that can win a NC in football right now because they horde all the top talent. Take a player or 2 away from the signing class of AL, Clemson, Ohio St., LSU, Oklahoma, etc every year and it would at least close the gap a little bit on talent. As far as baseball and basketball, it is totally stupid that they throw 300+ schools into D1. There should be 2 different D1 divisions just like football and then you wouldn't have schools like a Ball State telling the SEC what they can and can't do with number of coaches and number of scholarships in baseball. So many things with the NCAA are out of whack that could be easily fixed or greatly improved if someone there would use some common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    You serious Clark?

    Rob from football to pay baseball?
    Football doesn't need those scholarships. All they're good for is for the Alabama's of the world to stockpile talent. Think about if Bama, LSU, and Georgia had to cut 10 players each. Would you want some of those players? Reducing football scholarships gives schools like us a fighting chance. We still won't get the top tier of talent, but we may start pulling guys from that second tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    No. Increase the competition in football, which would bring more money to the sport while also allotting those scholarships to baseball to meet Title 9.

    Football in no way needs anything close to 85 scholarships & the over abundance of scholarships in the sport actually hurts the sport due to a few programs hoarding an inordinate amount of the top talent.
    I disagree. The injuries that pile up in football (an EXTREME contact sport) means extra scholarships are needed compared to baseball and basketball. The last 2 years we've had to shuffle defensive secondary around due to injuries and were close to having to put a walkon out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Football doesn't need those scholarships. All they're good for is for the Alabama's of the world to stockpile talent. Think about if Bama, LSU, and Georgia had to cut 10 players each. Would you want some of those players? Reducing football scholarships gives schools like us a fighting chance. We still won't get the top tier of talent, but we may start pulling guys from that second tier.

    See my response to Shotgun. If we have a rash of injuries in a particular position group we will have walkons out there against the likes of the 4 and 5-star Bamas and LSUs of the world and get crushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    I disagree. The injuries that pile up in football (an EXTREME contact sport) means extra scholarships are needed compared to baseball and basketball. The last 2 years we've had to shuffle defensive secondary around due to injuries and were close to having to put a walkon out there.
    Of course more schollies are needed than baseball and basketball, but not 85.

    The NFL plays football with 53 man rosters + a practice squad of 10 players. The NFL also has the ability to sign players off the street to play immediately. 53 + 10 + 10 = 73. There's no reason we can't cut 10 schollies from football tomorrow, which would make football significantly more competitive while also allowing 10 extra schollies to men's sports under Title 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    See my response to Shotgun. If we have a rash of injuries in a particular position group we will have walkons out there against the likes of the 4 and 5-star Bamas and LSUs of the world and get crushed.
    First off, we're already getting crushed. This only helps the sport

    Secondly, Bama and LSU would have the same problem and small margin for error.

    It would help the game considerably.

    Just so you know, we've already debated this numerous times to the end of the Earth and back on this board. We can counter any argument you may think of in the next 10 minutes or the next month. Just giving you heads up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    First off, we're already getting crushed.

    Secondly, Bama and LSU would have the same problem and small margin for error.

    It would help the game considerably.

    Just so you know, we've already debated this numerous times to the end of the Earth and back on this board. We can counter any argument you may think of in the next 10 minutes or the next month. Just giving you heads up.
    That's fine, just saying it won't necessarily help us out. Tennessee would be back to national power status though. Deny that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    That's fine, just saying it won't necessarily help us out. Tennessee would be back to national power status though. Deny that.
    How would it not help us out?

    There would be a lot more teams that have the potential to win a Natty, including us. That's the point. It helps the sport grow as significantly more fan bases have a chance.

    Why do I care if Tennessee has a chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    See my response to Shotgun. If we have a rash of injuries in a particular position group we will have walkons out there against the likes of the 4 and 5-star Bamas and LSUs of the world and get crushed.
    They'll have injuries too.

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    Additionally, by reducing scholarships by 10, you would narrow the field enough that numerous other programs would have the potential build a winnings tradition & perhaps over the course of 20 years or so the difference between Alabama's football program & Mississippi State's football program would be similar to the difference between LSU's baseball program & Ole Miss' baseball program.

    Yes, LSU's tradition & program is better than Ole Miss' in baseball, but in any one season, they likely have similar to close to similar type players, which creates an extremely intense, every game matters, competitive college baseball season.

    You also would see less coach hopping. If Mullen like he had similar odds to win a natty at MSU as he did Florida, does he leave? Does Tuberville leave Ole Miss for Auburn? etc....

    Those things allow more programs that run things correctly to build a winning tradition, which only allows college football to grow in popularity, attendance, & ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    They'll have injuries too.
    It's like he's never thought about this & is now asking the right questions. In about 3 more posts & questions, he'll agree with us.
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    I know leach will never go for it, but just for boredom sakes - say a school did put 10 baseball guys on football scholarships. Is that allowed? How does that count on baseball scholarships?

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