The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[Cooterpoot]

Bet you were really pissed about the 4 who died in Benghazi tho

I don't get pissed with politics. It's all bullshit. It's like wraslin. It's fake. It's this big act of good vs evil. You guys can argue politics all you want. All of you are on the same team if you're choosing a side.

[Dawgcap]

Not always about politics. I just wonder who should be working? Who?s expendable in your eyes? Who?s not? See the thing is we have issues economically and possibly health care crisis for the near future. Who do you depend on and why do you feel they owe so many something with nothing in return

[Todd4State]

My point is that this is going to happen everywhere if we open up too soon and before mass testing. The economy will be more ****ed than it is now.

And a lot more people will die.

We have to start back at some point. I'm pretty sure it's going to start May 1. It will happen gradually.

[hacker]

I don't get pissed with politics. It's all bullshit. It's like wraslin. It's fake. It's this big act of good vs evil. You guys can argue politics all you want. All of you are on the same team if you're choosing a side.

Damn it, I should've saved that one for someone else then

I actually agree with you about this 100%

[hacker]

We have to start back at some point. I'm pretty sure it's going to start May 1. It will happen gradually.

Yeah, we do. But if we start back when 20k+ people a day are still testing positive, we will reach new highs within weeks and all of this would've been for nothing.

The curve is flattening because we're mostly at home.

I don't see it happening May 1.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, we do. But if we start back when 20k+ people a day are still testing positive, we will reach new highs within weeks and all of this would've been for nothing.

The curve is flattening because we're mostly at home.

I don't see it happening May 1.

Again I think we open gradually. People are going to test positive- but the vast majority aren't needing to be hospitalized. A lot are testing positive and are asymptomatic. Some of that is because of the natural progression of virus exposure and people building immunity to it.

If we just open everything all up at once yeah- it will be a disaster. Trump is forming committees to re-open America for a reason.

And the "experts" have been so far off on their estimates I don't think the government officials are going to buy their expertise as much going forward with the data that is coming in.

[hacker]

@msstate7 checking in on Sweden and its neighbors

Sweden:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9462796.html

"Karolinska hospital has issued guidelines to doctors indicating that patients 80 years old and above would not be admitted into intensive care units, nor those between 60 and 80 with pre-existing conditions."


Denmark:

https://www.bccourier.com/denmark-re...-on-wednesday/


"In Norway, the kindergartens will be open again next Monday , seven days later the first to fourth grades will follow in schools."

[defiantdog]

I'm working every day. And I'm an extremely big risk person health wise. It would likelykill me. My point is, it's getting close to time for some people to get back to working. Some companies to get it rolling again. Still a few weeks away, but we're getting ther.

I think of myself as a heathy person and this virus has me out of work for a third straight week. Rushing back to work is only going to prolong the process. People need to relax and let this virus run its course.

Do you really want everyone to go back to work on May 1st and start the chaos all over again? This virus sucks..... it keeps us out of work..... but you don't want this thing. You don't want to sit up at night worrying about satisfying a deep breath..... or randomly get freezing cold and start shivering..... or having random diarrhea that hits you even if you haven't eaten in two days..... or being so lethargic that you can't get out of bed to even walk to the bathroom. Oh, and those are considered mild symptoms that last for a week and may or may not come back two weeks later when you think you're recovering. You don't want this shit. Stay the **** home and let this thing run its course.

[Todd4State]

I think of myself as a heathy person and this virus has me out of work for a third straight week. Rushing back to work is only going to prolong the process. People need to relax and let this virus run its course.

Do you really want everyone to go back to work on May 1st and start the chaos all over again? This virus sucks..... it keeps us out of work..... but you don't want this thing. You don't want to sit up at night worrying about satisfying a deep breath..... or randomly get freezing cold and start shivering..... or having random diarrhea that hits you even if you haven't eaten in two days..... or being so lethargic that you can't get out of bed to even walk to the bathroom. Oh, and those are considered mild symptoms that last for a week and may or may not come back two weeks later when you think you're recovering. You don't want this shit. Stay the **** home and let this thing run its course.

I hear you but you also need to understand that a lot of people don't have symptoms as bad as you did. Probably the majority don't.

[msstate7]

@msstate7 checking in on Sweden and its neighbors

Sweden:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9462796.html

"Karolinska hospital has issued guidelines to doctors indicating that patients 80 years old and above would not be admitted into intensive care units, nor those between 60 and 80 with pre-existing conditions."


Denmark:

https://www.bccourier.com/denmark-re...-on-wednesday/


"In Norway, the kindergartens will be open again next Monday , seven days later the first to fourth grades will follow in schools."

I think how this plays out will be fascinating. I think it's way to early to declare one right though. What happens when Denmark and Norway open back up? Will Sweden hit herd immunity much quicker?

[dantheman4248]

I hear you but you also need to understand that a lot of people don't have symptoms as bad as you did. Probably the majority don't.

Just gonna point out how lame of a mindset that is. Numbers are pulled strictly from my ass and not necessarily in relation to this disease.

"**** it if 2% die, and 13% have horrible symptoms; 85% of us didn't feel shit. We need our economy back. There's no alternative. We can't possibly tax the 1% or even the .1% more. You gotta think about how unfair that is to them to take away their hard earned dollar disproportionately."

[Dawgfan77]

We have way to ma y people pushing this fear porn out there. Yes the virous is bad if IF you have underlying health issues. Those as well as older people need to be quarantined. I agree with that. But we didn't shut down do to the FLU, H1N1, Ebola, and any other viral infectious diseases. Yet we have so much of the left and radical reds pushing so hard for us to shutdown because they don't like the man leading us. It's insane we need to stop living in fear. And we need to stop with the fear articles

[hacker]

We have way to ma y people pushing this fear porn out there. Yes the virous is bad if IF you have underlying health issues. Those as well as older people need to be quarantined. I agree with that. But we didn't shut down do to the FLU, H1N1, Ebola, and any other viral infectious diseases. Yet we have so much of the left and radical reds pushing so hard for us to shutdown because they don't like the man leading us. It's insane we need to stop living in fear. And we need to stop with the fear articles

Yes, the entire world has shut down because they don't like Trump. Norway, Singapore, Australia, Germany, UK, India, Thailand, just about every single country except for Sweden all hate Trump and have locked their people at home at shut down their economies because they don't like Trump.

Trump himself issued and then extended stay at home guidelines (although he has no power to shut down or reopen the states, regardless of what he's telling you). Does Trump not like the man leading us either? That must be it.

Or maybe, just maybe.. this virus might be worse than all of the others you mentioned and anything else we've seen in our lifetimes.

[hacker]

We have way to ma y people pushing this fear porn out there. Yes the virous is bad if IF you have underlying health issues. Those as well as older people need to be quarantined. I agree with that. But we didn't shut down do to the FLU, H1N1, Ebola, and any other viral infectious diseases. Yet we have so much of the left and radical reds pushing so hard for us to shutdown because they don't like the man leading us. It's insane we need to stop living in fear. And we need to stop with the fear articles

And if you actually look 5 posts above, a 37 year old on this board got the virus with no underlying conditions and has been out of work for 3 weeks.

[hacker]

I think how this plays out will be fascinating. I think it's way to early to declare one right though. What happens when Denmark and Norway open back up? Will Sweden hit herd immunity much quicker?

For sure. I'll keep updating either way, I'm curious to see how it plays out as well.

[Dawgfan77]

And if you actually look 5 posts above, a 37 year old on this board got the virus with no underlying conditions and has been out of work for 3 weeks.

I'm not convinced you can read though

Look did I say people wouldn't get sick? No! Have you had the flue ever??? Have you know people that have recovered from a viral infection?? What about people that died due to an infection? My mother died as a result of a viral infection. My father has underlying health issues. So yes I have a decent experience with both viral infection as well as a loved one with health issues. But I'm not going to live in fear
You and dan the man keep keep bringing fear porn over here and the reality of the situation isn't as bad as you and other want it to be.
BTW. Thanks for insulting my intelligence. I'm sure your a young buck and resort to this childish insults.

[hacker]

Look did I say people wouldn't get sick? No! Have you had the flue ever??? Have you know people that have recovered from a viral infection?? What about people that died due to an infection? My mother died as a result of a viral infection. My father has underlying health issues. So yes I have a decent experience with both viral infection as well as a loved one with health issues. But I'm not going to live in fear
You and dan the man keep keep bringing fear porn over here and the reality of the situation isn't as bad as you and other want it to be.
BTW. Thanks for insulting my intelligence. I'm sure your a young buck and resort to this childish insults.

I apologize for the insults. I removed it before your post but I guess you had already seen it and started to reply.

But tell me, what do you think happens if we have millions of people sick at once?

[Cooterpoot]

I think of myself as a heathy person and this virus has me out of work for a third straight week. Rushing back to work is only going to prolong the process. People need to relax and let this virus run its course.

Do you really want everyone to go back to work on May 1st and start the chaos all over again? This virus sucks..... it keeps us out of work..... but you don't want this thing. You don't want to sit up at night worrying about satisfying a deep breath..... or randomly get freezing cold and start shivering..... or having random diarrhea that hits you even if you haven't eaten in two days..... or being so lethargic that you can't get out of bed to even walk to the bathroom. Oh, and those are considered mild symptoms that last for a week and may or may not come back two weeks later when you think you're recovering. You don't want this shit. Stay the **** home and let this thing run its course.

All depends on the work we do. I'm lucky to be involved with things in demand right now. I think the first stage of reopening starts end of May. I've had something very similar to this before. That's part of why I'm high risk. Plus, I've got like 4 autoimmune issues. So, yeah, I'd have a hard time.

[Dawgfan77]

I apologize for the insults. I removed it before your post but I guess you had already seen it and started to reply.

But tell me, what do you think happens if we have millions of people sick at once?

I apologize for responding negatively
We are all dawgs here and want what's best for the country and our families so I do see both sides of the coin
To answer your question
I don't think we will have millions sick. I do think we will have millions carrying the virus just as we have millions carrying the flue and other diseases. We are fortunate however to live in a country unlike Italy and China as well as others that believe in hygiene. I also think that we will and some already have built in immune systems that the virus will eventually pass through the immune system with little to no problems. If you study the data it has no age specific of who and what it infects, however it ranges in seriousness from little to no symptoms to death. Out of those the highest percentage at risk are older people and those with underlying health issues. That's not to take away from anyone's loss no death is to small. Fortunately, like we have with other infectious diseases we already have and are still experimenting with treatments. Much like the common cold and influenza we won't ever have a cure for a viral infection but we have (hydrochlorquin) treatments which is really what we need. I know the conspiracy issues out there. People talk about vaccines. Well out of the known 350MM people in America only about 175MM actually took the flue shot this year. Meaning that roughly half the population didn't. So really is a vaccine really going to help? Maybe to calm the hysteria but still if you take the shot you still may het the flue. Happened to me in 2018. But the dr prescribed treatment but it wasnt a cure. The virus had to run its course. It was unfortunately part of life

My quick solution is to slowly open up the country starting with states that have not been hit hard. Those that don't want to work or go out well that's there choice just like it is every day. Those that are at a high risk continue working from home those that are infected quarantine for the two weeks
We have to start slowly but we need to start doing something or we will get complacent and never really recover.
No solution is perfect but I think it's time we stop living in fear.

[hacker]

I apologize for responding negatively
We are all dawgs here and want what's best for the country and our families so I do see both sides of the coin
To answer your question
I don't think we will have millions sick. I do think we will have millions carrying the virus just as we have millions carrying the flue and other diseases. We are fortunate however to live in a country unlike Italy and China as well as others that believe in hygiene. I also think that we will and some already have built in immune systems that the virus will eventually pass through the immune system with little to no problems. If you study the data it has no age specific of who and what it infects, however it ranges in seriousness from little to no symptoms to death. Out of those the highest percentage at risk are older people and those with underlying health issues. That's not to take away from anyone's loss no death is to small. Fortunately, like we have with other infectious diseases we already have and are still experimenting with treatments. Much like the common cold and influenza we won't ever have a cure for a viral infection but we have (hydrochlorquin) treatments which is really what we need. I know the conspiracy issues out there. People talk about vaccines. Well out of the known 350MM people in America only about 175MM actually took the flue shot this year. Meaning that roughly half the population didn't. So really is a vaccine really going to help? Maybe to calm the hysteria but still if you take the shot you still may het the flue. Happened to me in 2018. But the dr prescribed treatment but it wasnt a cure. The virus had to run its course. It was unfortunately part of life

My quick solution is to slowly open up the country starting with states that have not been hit hard. Those that don't want to work or go out well that's there choice just like it is every day. Those that are at a high risk continue working from home those that are infected quarantine for the two weeks
We have to start slowly but we need to start doing something or we will get complacent and never really recover.
No solution is perfect but I think it's time we stop living in fear.

I don't think we should be living in fear, but I think everyone should understand the reality of this virus:

- if you catch the virus and show symptoms, you have around a 1 in 100 chance of dying
- if you show symptoms but don't die, you have around a 1 in 5 chance of being hospitalized
- if you show symptoms but aren't hospitalized, it's still very likely to put you on your ass for a few weeks
- the virus is very contagious and is spread before people even know they have it
- less than 3% of the US population has caught the virus so far
- more than half of the hospitalizations in the US are for people under 60
- we do not have the testing infrastructure in place to detect and quarantine people before they spread it to others
- we are still quarantining infected at home, spreading it to their family members

Don't live in fear, but be smart and don't minimize this. Don't try to convince others that it's not bad because then they may make dumb decisions.

Yes, we need to figure out how to open the economy up. I don't think anyone thinks we should live like this forever. But we have to be smart and cautious and prepared first. Let's not just say "it's time to open up" without a plan because we're restless. We need a plan first.