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    Your math proves a 6th grader should be able to suggest social distancing, with which I agree.

    Me and my family have been isolating since before deadhead was making an idiot of himself. I feel like the positive trends lately have been in spite of so many others not doing the same. These thoughts are as anecdotal as your photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    "My doctor said I'd die if I didn't get my cancer treatment, so I got it and it's working. WHY DID I LISTEN TO HIM? 100% FRAUD"
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    I don't think fauci is a fraud, but he certainly isn't above criticism. Not hard to end up being right when you can change your stance and be heralded the whole way...

    "It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]," National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci told "The Cats Roundtable" on 970 AM-N.Y., per The Hill

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...f=www.bing.com

    Also fauci...

    Fauci cautioned, ?I don?t think that we really need to make a projection,? because of the uncertainty inherent in the forecasting enterprise. But he did concede that ?looking at what we?re seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases ? excuse me, deaths ? we?re going to have millions of cases.?

    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/29/211987...estimate-fauci

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't think fauci is a fraud, but he certainly isn't above criticism. Not hard to end up being right when you can change your stance and be heralded the whole way...

    "It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]," National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci told "The Cats Roundtable" on 970 AM-N.Y., per The Hill

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...f=www.bing.com

    Also fauci...

    Fauci cautioned, ?I don?t think that we really need to make a projection,? because of the uncertainty inherent in the forecasting enterprise. But he did concede that ?looking at what we?re seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases ? excuse me, deaths ? we?re going to have millions of cases.?

    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/29/211987...estimate-fauci

    Being off by 40k to 140k on the number of deaths doesn't seem too bad. That's less than .05% of the US population. If the death rate is 1% percent, having the number of infections off by 1 percentage points (say going from 30% of the population to 29% of population infected) would be 32thousand deaths. Having the death rate off by a quarter of a percentage point, say .75% instead of 1%, and with 30% of the population infected, that's 240,000 fewer deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Being off by 40k to 140k on the number of deaths doesn't seem too bad. That's less than .05% of the US population. If the death rate is 1% percent, having the number of infections off by 1 percentage points (say going from 30% of the population to 29% of population infected) would be 32thousand deaths. Having the death rate off by a quarter of a percentage point, say .75% instead of 1%, and with 30% of the population infected, that's 240,000 fewer deaths.
    I agree with what you. I put both those quotes though bc he went from we (USA) don't need to worry about to 100-200k deaths.

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    I speculate that the new numbers will be lowered to possible 45K total deaths. But let's shit on the economy cause democrats hate trump and couldn't impeach him. And now let's have vote by mail so those dead by covid can vote for uncle joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    "My doctor said I'd die if I didn't get my cancer treatment, so I got it and it's working. WHY DID I LISTEN TO HIM? 100% FRAUD"
    Good thing your Dr. didn't flip flop on his opinion like Fauci. If your Dr. had said he didn't believe your cancer would spread because it's benign, when it was actually aggressive you'd be dead. Glad you're cured.
    Watch out for silent carriers, they're all over the grocery stores etc. They're carrying it into LTC facilities. They're the real danger and Fauci didn't believe they were real.

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    In virus update news, the virus has gotten too smart it outsmarts the antibiotics. The "germ" has gotten too smart. It's outsmarted us all. The nonliving thing is too smart to be stopped by the drugs that by definition kill only living things.

    https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1...355328512?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    In virus update news, the virus has gotten too smart it outsmarts the antibiotics. The "germ" has gotten too smart. It's outsmarted us all. The nonliving thing is too smart to be stopped by the drugs that by definition kill only living things.

    https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1...355328512?s=21
    And nothing outsmarts you. You have all the answers. Thanks for making a dent in this epidemic and exposing the dictator. I?ll sleep better tonight knowing your expertise will save the world. Thank you and cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgcap View Post
    And nothing outsmarts you. You have all the answers. Thanks for making a dent in this epidemic and exposing the dictator. I?ll sleep better tonight knowing your expertise will save the world. Thank you and cheers.
    Ad hominem attack. Check. Deflection. Check. Avoided responding to the issue. Check.

    That's all on you and all I did was paraphrase the CIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't think fauci is a fraud, but he certainly isn't above criticism. Not hard to end up being right when you can change your stance and be heralded the whole way...

    "It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]," National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci told "The Cats Roundtable" on 970 AM-N.Y., per The Hill

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...f=www.bing.com

    Also fauci...

    Fauci cautioned, ?I don?t think that we really need to make a projection,? because of the uncertainty inherent in the forecasting enterprise. But he did concede that ?looking at what we?re seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases ? excuse me, deaths ? we?re going to have millions of cases.?

    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/29/211987...estimate-fauci
    I'm like you on Fauci.

    Most modelers will usually be very to extremely conservative when modeling something for the 1st time with very little data. When people's lives are at stake, usually the conservatism increases a good bit. To add to that also, besides the data changing the variables have been too. So I will defend Fauci to a certain extent cause of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Not by any normal definition of fascism. Fascism and communism are competing ideologies, but they are both on the left by any reasonable definition. If you are using fascism as a synonym for corporatism, which can sort of look similar if you squint in the sense that national and corporate interests are basically merged, then that would be fair'ish, although I think that's still inaccurate, as it's more about crony capitalism and rewarding particular politically connected people than thinking of the interests as the same. .
    I mostly agree with that .. both are socialistic (leftist) with fascism being on the far right of the left side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't think fauci is a fraud, but he certainly isn't above criticism. Not hard to end up being right when you can change your stance and be heralded the whole way...

    "It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of people coming in [from China]," National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci told "The Cats Roundtable" on 970 AM-N.Y., per The Hill

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...f=www.bing.com

    Also fauci...

    Fauci cautioned, ?I don?t think that we really need to make a projection,? because of the uncertainty inherent in the forecasting enterprise. But he did concede that ?looking at what we?re seeing now, I would say between 100,000 and 200,000 cases ? excuse me, deaths ? we?re going to have millions of cases.?

    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/29/211987...estimate-fauci
    There's a massive difference between early projections and projections based on empirical evidence, which we now have. At the time of this statement, he was probably right. However, now we need projections to determine the extent to which we can reopen the economy. Historically, the 2nd wave of illness has proven to be the most problematic. I hope people just continue to distance themselves and wear mask and wipe down packages and groceries so on and so forth... once people get lazy and stop doing those things, they're hurting everyone and especially the front line responders.

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    To throw it out there..... I started feeling symptoms for Covid-19 on March 29th. I couldn't smell anything unless it was sweet.... couldn't taste unless it was bitter..... couldn't satisfy a deep breath..... became very lethargic..... and simply couldn't get out of bed. And that was the first day. That last about 5 days. Also, around day 2..... I got the worst chills. I broke into 2 sweats that night. I didn't eat anything for 3 days..... had absolutely no appetite.

    On day 5, I started to feel better. It was a lie. Thursday hit and that was the first day I thought about going to the ER. My breathing and anxiety We're through the roof. I couldn't take a deep breath, felt like someone was stepping on my chest, and choking me at the same time. Luckily, I was able to fall asleep.

    Also, to add..... the days were much better than the nights. Except in the beginning..... it was all bad.

    I'm on day 14 now and I'm just now feeling a little more comfortable breathing. I still have some trouble satisfying a deep breath.

    This thing is not fun. I'm 37, in good health, and no under lining conditions. And I thought I was going to the ER.

    I've drank more water the last two weeks than I have in my life..... but I will say, a physician friend of mine suggested taking mucinex with zycam. It didn't make the virus go away, but it did help with the symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    To throw it out there..... I started feeling symptoms for Covid-19 on March 29th. I couldn't smell anything unless it was sweet.... couldn't taste unless it was bitter..... couldn't satisfy a deep breath..... became very lethargic..... and simply couldn't get out of bed. And that was the first day. That last about 5 days. Also, around day 2..... I got the worst chills. I broke into 2 sweats that night. I didn't eat anything for 3 days..... had absolutely no appetite.

    On day 5, I started to feel better. It was a lie. Thursday hit and that was the first day I thought about going to the ER. My breathing and anxiety We're through the roof. I couldn't take a deep breath, felt like someone was stepping on my chest, and choking me at the same time. Luckily, I was able to fall asleep.

    Also, to add..... the days were much better than the nights. Except in the beginning..... it was all bad.

    I'm on day 14 now and I'm just now feeling a little more comfortable breathing. I still have some trouble satisfying a deep breath.

    This thing is not fun. I'm 37, in good health, and no under lining conditions. And I thought I was going to the ER.

    I've drank more water the last two weeks than I have in my life..... but I will say, a physician friend of mine suggested taking mucinex with zycam. It didn't make the virus go away, but it did help with the symptoms.
    Glad you're better.

    So did you test positive? Has anyone else in your circle got it too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Glad you're better.

    So did you test positive? Has anyone else in your circle got it too?
    UAB would not test me because I didn't have underlying conditions and I'm still considered young. At the time I called them, my temperature was normal. But that's the thing..... my temperature has gone from 98.6 to 100.8 back to 98.6 in a matter of two hours. They only wanted to test me if my temperature went above 102 consistently..... thinking back, I should've lied. They told me to isolate myself. One person that I've come in contact with within the last month has shown up positive for covid. Luckily, she's 27 and in great shape. She'll power through this. My primary doctor has been in contact with me, but I couldn't imagine going through this if I had respiratory issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    UAB would not test me because I didn't have underlying conditions and I'm still considered young. At the time I called them, my temperature was normal. But that's the thing..... my temperature has gone from 98.6 to 100.8 back to 98.6 in a matter of two hours. They only wanted to test me if my temperature went above 102 consistently..... thinking back, I should've lied. They told me to isolate myself. One person that I've come in contact with within the last month has shown up positive for covid. Luckily, she's 27 and in great shape. She'll power through this. My primary doctor has been in contact with me, but I couldn't imagine going through this if I had respiratory issues.
    Glad you seem to be better dude. Hope she doesn't get too sick with it.

    Just curious ... do you know your blood type?

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    A positive..... wife and kid are both 0 positive. They haven't showed any signs. Looks like I was wrong about the blood type thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    A positive..... wife and kid are both 0 positive. They haven't showed any signs. Looks like I was wrong about the blood type thing
    I had read that too. Gonna still be careful myself but I'm O+.

    I been wondering with some of the data trends and how hard certain areas are hit .. is it ethnicity (Italian maybe since NY has 2nd highest Italian ethnic population) or blood type ... combo of the 2. Not sure.

    ETA: And even tho O blood types may not get it as bad, probably doesn't mean they couldn't be carriers.

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