The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[Joebob]

No...pretty much everyone on both sides is spewing propaganda.

The biggest failure of the American covid response was that it was politicized from the gate. That falls on the shoulders of the President, the media, government agencies, and more than a few scientists, doctors, and academics.

THAT was the failure. THAT is what led to where we are.

Scientists stating what the data currently shows is not politicizing anything. It's people's response to the data that is politicizing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take their preliminary findings or recommendations with a grain of salt. It's preliminary after all, and it takes years or decades of research to sort things out. But just because an epidemiologist thinks we should shut down the country doesn't mean he/she is pushing a political agenda.

[Jack Lambert]

It has.

Mutation is what caused the second wave of the Spanish Flu. It mutated to a more dangerous bug. I hope this mutation made it weaker.

[Jack Lambert]

Scientists stating what the data currently shows is not politicizing anything. It's people's response to the data that is politicizing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take their preliminary findings or recommendations with a grain of salt. It's preliminary after all, and it takes years or decades of research to sort things out. But just because an epidemiologist thinks we should shut down the country doesn't mean he/she is pushing a political agenda.

In march they were saying 2 million dead americans. Today less than 180K. I say they got it right.

[SteelCurtain74]

Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

[msstate7]

Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This is pretty big news, and no comments

[Matt3467]

Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This is pretty big news, and no comments

I actually just saw this and was on my way to leave a comment. This is really big.

[Cooterpoot]

I was just quoting a guy that says he works at a hospital that basically says you are full of it. You evidently know more than he does about the place he is employed at. Impressive.

Show me where I said that. I told him what I meant. What I considered "overrun".

[Dawgfan77]

This is pretty big news, and no comments

You won't because for some here It doesn't fit a narrative or their propaganda. I said months ago deaths weren't counted correctly and was blasted

[chef dixon]

I actually just saw this and was on my way to leave a comment. This is really big.

It's pretty rare to fill out a death certificate that has one diagnosis on it period. Physicians are trained to be detailed when they fill them out, regardless of how they die. It doesn't really change what we know about COVID-19, which is it is a lot more dangerous to people with underlying chronic diseases. 6 out of every 100 people who die from this are otherwise completely healthy tells me, although obviously rare, it has the ability to dust anyone's ass in the right situation.

[chef dixon]

You won't because for some here It doesn't fit a narrative or their propaganda. I said months ago deaths weren't counted correctly and was blasted

That's not what that stat suggests. It's still killing these people for the most part. They are just at baseline less healthy.

[Dawgfan77]

That's not what that stat suggests. It's still killing these people for the most part. They are just at baseline less healthy.

Why do you hate good news. Oh. I see cause you have an agenda. Got it. My bad. Have a great Sunday.

[chef dixon]

Why do you hate good news. Oh. I see cause you have an agenda. Got it. My bad. Have a great Sunday.

I just like for you to know how it works. It's not as political as you think it is. Doctors decide/label cause of death. If it gets reported any differently after that then I can't explain that. A death certificate may read immediate cause of death: respiratory failure due to Covid-19 infection, secondary to weakened immune system, secondary to poorly controlled diabetes. The diabetes is not what killed them, but it contributes and it's getting listed. No agenda I'm aware of, things seem to be doing better than before.

[Dawgfan77]

I just like for you to know how it works. It's not as political as you think it is. Doctors decide/label cause of death. If it gets reported any differently after that then I can't explain that. A death certificate may read immediate cause of death: respiratory failure due to Covid-19 infection, secondary to weakened immune system, secondary to poorly controlled diabetes. The diabetes is not what killed them, but it contributes and it's getting listed. No agenda I'm aware of, things seem to be doing better than before.

I understand that. I'm sorry if I came across wrong

[MaroonFlounder]

CDC says it is NOT 180,000 deaths from strictly Covid.

Actually less than 10,000.

[Matt3467]

What happened to our daily updates from Hacker?

[Joebob]

Saw this update on the CDC site concerning comorbidities:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

"For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death."

This explains why everybody is misinterpreting this information:

https://medium.com/@gidmk/covid-19-d...s-2a6d2d43bd09

[Johnson85]

This is somewhat encouraging:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...study-12044923

If they are right, the UK government managed to not cause more damage than the virus itself. Guessing we probably did roughly similar. Lots of places in the US pursued less damaging policies than the UK, but we did have our most populous areas act the most heavy handed, so that probably balances out to an extent. I was really expecting to find out we did more damage than the virus itself. Of course, this is just looking at deaths. Could be a different picture if you include all the other harms. But still, only causing two deaths for every three covid caused deaths is better than I was expecting.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is pretty big news, and no comments

Ugh, that's not news at all. It's been listed and updated on the MSDH website for Mississippi since they put up up. What IS new is the twist being put on it. There have been some very interesting changes at the CDC and the FDA in the last month.

[msstate7]

This is somewhat encouraging:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...study-12044923

If they are right, the UK government managed to not cause more damage than the virus itself. Guessing we probably did roughly similar. Lots of places in the US pursued less damaging policies than the UK, but we did have our most populous areas act the most heavy handed, so that probably balances out to an extent. I was really expecting to find out we did more damage than the virus itself. Of course, this is just looking at deaths. Could be a different picture if you include all the other harms.

Link messed up

[msstate7]

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/sta...774070784?s=21